Klondike93
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I usually use my fist, foot or the ocasional elbow, but haven't tried a wave yet.
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I usually use my fist, foot or the ocasional elbow, but haven't tried a wave yet.
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Ty K. Doe
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Kickyou,
Just wondering if your going to the Coca Cola Classic MMA tournament in St. Louis on Saturday, April 6th.
Just wondering if your going to the Coca Cola Classic MMA tournament in St. Louis on Saturday, April 6th.
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Ty K. Doe
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I would have to say it's not the students according to the following pattern requirements straight from the ITF official web site:
6. Each pattern should be perfected before moving to the next.
7. Students should know the purpose of each movement.
8. Students should perform each movement with realism.
How can it be the student if they are advancing without meeting these requirements.
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Ty K. Doe
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I guess sine-wave is not very popular among most practicioners of TKD, according to the number of posts. So I'll take it that it's not much more beneficial to learn.
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kickerfour
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Sine wave is a difficult concept to explain but relative easy to demonstrate -- if the person doing the demonstration undestand what they are doing.
Sine wave is only one small part of the theory of power although it is a very important part. To really understand sine wave one should really study and understand the whole theory of power.
Sine wave is only one small part of the theory of power although it is a very important part. To really understand sine wave one should really study and understand the whole theory of power.
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Bagatha
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Judging from the number of posts, there are only 2 people here who dont seem to see any value, yourself included. Learn to count and then learn to play.
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Ty K. Doe
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I'm not sure what kind of game you want me to play, but maybe you could explain that a little more.
Perhaps I made an incorrect statement, so I'll try to clarify.
At the time there were 25 posts vs. 297 views. That means that roughly 8% of people viewing this thread who I am assuming are TKD practicioners have anything at all to say about the sine-wave. Out of the 25 posts only 12 really knew anything about the sine-wave and only 13 really didn't know anything about it (me included). However the 8% is overstated because out of 25 posts only 10 different people posted. So my conclusion was that perhaps there are a greater number of TKD instructors out there that didn't feel the need to teach the sine-wave to their students.
If I'm incorrect maybe we could get more TKD practicioners to post.
Bagatha, I would like to extend my sincerest apologies if I have offended you in any way. It seems evident from other threads that somehow I have gotten under your skin.
I would like to assure all ITF practicioners who use the sine-wave that I am not bashing them. Since there is no one within an hours drive from me that can properly teach me this technique, I am attempting to see if it is worth my while to drive an hour every week to learn this.
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ThuNder_FoOt
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I've done ITf TKD, and I'm not sure what this sine-wave thing is. Are you guys talking about the pre- sway motion that some people exaggerate on? I may have been exposed to this, but I must understand what it is first. Can someone explain a little? I read Bagatha's explanation... but I'm still unsure as to what it might be.:asian: :asian:
Damian Mavis
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Oh dear god no. It is not worth an hours drive just to learn sinewave. I run an ITF school so ...I'm not saying sinewave isn't good, I'm just saying it's not worth an hours drive every lesson. Find a good local school to go to.
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Drunken Master
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I would say that perhaps a couple of hours instruction and you would be able to pickup what Sine-Wave is all about.
I think it would be worth making the drive at least twice to experience and learn what it is about. Once you have learnt the principal you can practise and perfect it yourself.
Damian Mavis
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I think what he meant was (and I might be wrong) that in order to learn sine wave he would have to join a school that is an hours drive away, so taking one or 2 classes to pick it up were outta the question I THINK. My advice was stay in your neighbourhood, life is way to short to drive 2 hours a day for one of the least important things I have to teach my students. Don't be upset with me if you feel it warrants more importance... I just feel that working on the pads, sparring and working on your timing and reflexes are more important. He should be able to get that anywere without the 2 hours a day drive.
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Ty K. Doe
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Thank you Damian. Your advice is well taken.
ThuNder_FoOt
To view the sine-wave in action check out the following web site.
http://www.taekwondo.to/Patterns.htm
ThuNder_FoOt
To view the sine-wave in action check out the following web site.
http://www.taekwondo.to/Patterns.htm
Klondike93
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If that's sine-wave, then I was correct in what I first posted. It was introduced to us in the USTF back in 1986 and it was called at that time spring step.
Nice web site too, thanks for the heads up on that.
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WaterCircleHarmony
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i've trained in hapkido, a small amount of WTF and i am now training ITF style which does practise sine.
i recommend seeing the forms displayed at www.taekwondo.to
they are very crisp and i am more convinced now of sine motion. i never rated this much due to my training background but it has much more relevance now in my training.
i'm still quite stubborn so GRRR! DARN sine motion!
lol
i recommend seeing the forms displayed at www.taekwondo.to
they are very crisp and i am more convinced now of sine motion. i never rated this much due to my training background but it has much more relevance now in my training.
i'm still quite stubborn so GRRR! DARN sine motion!
lol
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Ty K. Doe
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I've actually had that site bookmarked for a while. I do think they perform it better than most other sites I've seen.
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kickerfour
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Another good site is http://users.ev1.net/~D.McHenry/forms/
Klondike93
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Still don't care for it. In my opinion it makes the form err sorry, pattern too bouncy. Your height zone changes which goes against principles of keeping your head and body one height.
Yes I practiced this and when I quit the USTF I was glad to drop it.
Just my opinion though.
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Yes I practiced this and when I quit the USTF I was glad to drop it.
Just my opinion though.
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RCastillo
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I'm hurt! Once ITF, always ITF, you can never quit us!
(Not really)
Klondike93
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I didn't say I quit the ITF just the USTF, just didn't care being told who I could study with. Now I'm doing Kenpo and Systema and loving it.
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kickerfour
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Of course, General Choi developed principles other than keeping your head and body one height. This is a karate priciple which fits with what you are doing now. I very much like sine wave as I find it generates more power when used correctly and in conjunction with the threory of power.
