ShotoNoob
Master Black Belt
|Loved it. Proper karate! Ok, I had to get past the hand being left out to dry but I can live with that for the sake of the demonstration.
Well, that is done for the purposes of instilling the mental discipline I'm talking about. A curriculum such as yours takes care of that (standard, simplified structure) as one advances to more uncooperative & resistive situations.
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I'm not against resisting partners @ all. It's the time & place in the progressive development of mental discipline that I have zeroed in on....
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Athletic trainer's such as Matt Thortong are right to stress the subject of resisting partners / training. I differ in the emphasis and how resistance is employed to build mental discipline....
|Where we disagree is that I believe he is right to be front on.
No, actually we agree. My starting point for the illustration of Shotokan's value for self defense was to take the viewpoint of the visiting Shotokan master[?] instructor. IOW, he gave a great overview of the strategic SD importance of protecting the body's centerline / vital organs.
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Then, he turns around and head basically straight-in, not exactly. It shows in the tactical weakness of if his parry is off, he risks getting clocked in the head. The worst happening that can take place is to get struck in the brain-container.....
|In terms of sabaki, if you are in what I would call a typical Shotokan stance you can't move easily and you couldn't step in to do those takedowns which are the bread and butter of my training.
Following on our 'agreement,' the full import of what I said was, despite violating his centerline-protection maxim, there are advantages to doing the type of in-move he demonstrates. I wasn't thinking so much of takedown's which you would execute, yet he goes on to illustrate just that in Shotokan. The 1st move in positions for a complimentary follow-on. This is a tactical principle made plain in Ippon kumite, if practitioners would bother to take a step back and study the Shotokan handbook, use their 'nogin a bit.
|The other thing I didn't see was the block to which you referred. To me there was a deflection which didn't stop the attack. That is what all the 'ukes' are.
Ah, here we are at semantics, you being an expert in defining these close-quarter's exchanges. A block to me doesn't necessarily 'stop' the attack. The block diffuses the intended strike so that strike is [temporarily] neutralized. A hard block or softer parry then both qualify. The hard block is where more power or strength is required to neutralize the strike, the softer parry is where we only need to adjust the trajectory when it doesn't take much force, as shown here.... Of course, gradations in between.
|They are receiving the attack and responding, just what Joe Mirza did here. Actually, I had to look him up because I really didn't think what he was doing came from Shotokan. Boy, was I glad to be mistaken. You have boosted my appreciation of Shotokan by posting this video.
I'd say you're definitely using a grappling even aikido perspective here... The overall point I am making for Shotokan for SD is the quality of the training. The first part of that is too look past what Joe Blow is doing in kumite competition, in class, look past the McDojo pander to the commercialism, and get a hold of a couple of Shotokan karate manuals and read them.
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Also some of the books offered up in this T should later be of immense value. The first learning step is to understand the curriculum,and I would certainly start digging into the teachings of Funakoshi, then later Shotokan progenerators.... then tie that back to the experience in your dojo, changing if necessary....
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To become proficient at Shotokan, you have to go into depth. You can not just go with the flow around you & assume the conventions practiced around you will rub off into solid traditional karate.... No greater point made than that by the Shotokan instructor in my Tai Sabaki YT vid, even though he claims it's "simple....."
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