Shotokan for self defence.

[Drose427]

ptsd is not defined by the level of psychological impact though. Not everybody who goes through bad stuff gets ptsd.

So it is not a good gauge to define what is traumatic and what isn't.

Actually yeahh it is... nobody gets PTSD from baking cookies or hitting bag.

Not everyone who suffers gets PTSD, but everyone with PTSD went through something traumatic. That's the "Trauma" in the name of the disorder.

i.e. Not everyone who eats gets fat but that doesn't mean fried chicken isn't fattening....especially when it's a common meal among the obese.

That's why it's do easy to find PTSD sufferers after rapes, assuaults, etc.

But you can't find a fighter who got it from MMA.

There a whole list of common PTSD causing events....

 

[Tez3]

I simply believe that it's an obsolete method of training

that's not how it comes across though is it, you don't just say 'oh I think they are obsolete' you actually attack people who don't think like you, you say they make things up, steal techniques from other styles and get quite irate when people disagree with you. You think kata is obsolete, fine, you've said it and there's nothing else to add.

I was thinking about that when I wrote the post.

You haven't seen any of them if you meant what you said.

 

[drop bear]

Actually yeahh it is... nobody gets PTSD from baking cookies or hitting bag.

Not everyone who suffers gets PTSD, but everyone with PTSD went through something traumatic. That's the "Trauma" in the name of the disorder.

i.e. Not everyone who eats gets fat but that doesn't mean fried chicken isn't fattening....especially when it's a common meal among the obese.

That's why it's do easy to find PTSD sufferers after rapes, assuaults, etc.

But you can't find a fighter who got it from MMA.

There a whole list of common PTSD causing events....

So a rape that does not result in ptsd was not all that traumatic?

 

[RTKDCMB]

The no rules challenge match in a car park is a ploy people use to ego stroke generally.creating so many conditions as to never get challenged.
Sometimes they actually go ahead. But they don't achieve much.

I find it ironic that you mention this after you post videos like these:

 

[Tez3]

So a rape that does not result in ptsd was not all that traumatic?

Wow, now that is really going to far in putting words into someone's mouth. You really should apologise for that, it's dreadful.

 

[Drose427]

So a rape that does not result in ptsd was not all that traumatic?

That's nowhere near what I said at all....

 

[RTKDCMB]

So a rape that does not result in ptsd was not all that traumatic?

http://www.tomshw.it/forum/attachme...879396-approccio-ragazze-picard-facepalm1.jpg

 

[drop bear]

that's not how it comes across though is it, you don't just say 'oh I think they are obsolete' you actually attack people who don't think like you, you say they make things up, steal techniques from other styles and get quite irate when people disagree with you. You think kata is obsolete, fine, you've said it and there's nothing else to add.






You haven't seen any of them if you meant what you said.

I really wish people wouldn't just join unrelated conclusion's

that's not how it comes across though is it, you don't just say 'oh I think they are obsolete' you actually attack people who don't think like you, you say they make things up, steal techniques from other styles and get quite irate when people disagree with you. You think kata is obsolete, fine, you've said it and there's nothing else to add.






You haven't seen any of them if you meant what you said.

there are people who are serious about that kind of thing and people who want to sound serious.

The ones that want to fight in a flash Gordon style death arena are usually the latter

 

[drop bear]

L

That's nowhere near what I said at all....

You are saying the level of trauma is defined by whether or not you get ptsd.

It clearly isn't.

 

[Tez3]

This is way, way off topic, now we have rape being used to disparage someone. That's nasty. Time to either get back on subject or leave methinks.

 

[RTKDCMB]

I really wish people wouldn't just join unrelated conclusion's

And what does that video have to do with anything?

 

[Drose427]

L

You are saying the level of trauma is defined by whether or not you get ptsd.

It clearly isn't.

Are you trolling?

No that's not what I'm saying...

Do you realize you can literally find a list of common PTSD causes. They're always traumatic Life threatening events..

Again, if MMA is anywhere as Traumatic as rape, getting beaten with in inch of your life or jumped, getting shot at or assaulted with a weapon as a cop, show me one MMA Fighter who got it from the cage.

By even putting those in the same category as regulated, civilized, and controlled sport is literally a disrespectful act of desperation. You're downplaying actual traumatic events.

When thousands of people get PTSD from any of those events, but not a single fighter has been recorded as getting it from MMA, one is clearly less Traumatic than the other......

 

[RTKDCMB]

Do you realize you can literally find a list of common PTSD causes. They're always traumatic

Hence the 'T'.

 

[Kong Soo Do]

Supposed to be ksd.

The no rules challenge match in a car park is a ploy people use to ego stroke generally.
creating so many conditions as to never get challenged.

Sometimes they actually go ahead. But they don't achieve much.

No ego involved. You two try to equate the ring with SD. We're telling you they are two different things. And you can't judge one by the other. So in a 'challenge' you have to have each person abide by their training. The BJJ guy trains for one, unarmed opponent who plays by the rules, gets to tap out if the going gets too tough, gets a time out to catch his breath, gets some advice from his corner guys in addition to being prepped for the next round and all of it takes place on a nice soft, dry, level mat. And let's not forget the protective equipment so they don't injure their hands or testicles. Well I don't train with all of your fluffy luxuries. And I don't have to abide by your rules. And I don't need your protective gear. And I don't require your soft, padded flooring. And I don't have to spar to be effective, I have life and actual/practical experience instead as well as an understanding of viable training methods that you and Hanzou don't have.

 

[drop bear]

That's nowhere near what I said at all....

Ok then I am sorry if that was mean.

We will try this on a nicer track.
why do some people get ptsd and others don't?

 

[Tez3]

there are people who are serious about that kind of thing and people who want to sound serious.

The ones that want to fight in a flash Gordon style death arena are usually the latter

What on earth is this about, it had nothing to do with my post you quoted. And the video? What has that got to do with Shotokan and self defence or even kata? 'Unrelated conclusions'? mate, you make totally unrelated posts.

 

[drop bear]

And what does that video have to do with anything?

It got trapped in there for no good reason. Sometimes this phone just goes a bit weird

 

[Tez3]

Ok then I am sorry if that was mean.

We will try this on a nicer track.
why do some people get ptsd and others don't?

Way off topic again but perhaps if you read this you will stop posting stuff up that has nothing to do with the topic.
NIMH Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder PTSD

 

[Drose427]

Ok then I am sorry if that was mean.

We will try this on a nicer track.
why do some people get ptsd and others don't?

Ask a shrink.

Why do some jaws break easier than others?

That doesn't make the punch any less powerful.

But there has to be "traumatic stress" to cause PTSD.

Common SD situations are common causes i.e. rape, assaults, stabbings, etc. You can find many people suffering from PTSD after that.

Name one MMA fighter who got it in the cage.

If MMA was traumatic stress like rapes, assaults, and stabbings we'd have a considerable amount of fighters with PTSD.

When thousands of people suffer from PTSD from the same events, and you can't give us one record a single fighter getting it it's hard to claim it holds the same amount of stress as Rapes, Assaults, etc.

 

[drop bear]

Way off topic again but perhaps if you read this you will stop posting stuff up that has nothing to do with the topic.
NIMH Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder PTSD

I didn't raise the ptsd subject.