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[Monkey Turned Wolf]

You could do the drill at a slow enough pace people can win at it. But nobody does.

Yes they do. Not everybody, but not "nobody". There are absolutely people that do this drill at distance rather than directly in the pocket, and slow enough that people should be able to react/'win'.

 

[drop bear]

Yes they do. Not everybody, but not "nobody". There are absolutely people that do this drill at distance rather than directly in the pocket, and slow enough that people should be able to react/'win'.

Well yeah. I do it right. But that was from years of trying to understand that even though I could pull counters off in sparring and fights I could never pull them off in drills.

To be honest is was once I started going against good guys in sparring. Because they would be on me faster than I could react. And I was like. I have to set this up or I just get jumped.

Which sent me down the rabbit hole of learning how to move safely though the space. Rather than see and respond.

Which is the difference between a terrible fighter. And a not so terrible fighter.

But it doesn't matter who does it. Or doesn’t. Unless O.P does it. And that is the reason he can't get good at drills.

Because that's the issue we are trying to solve.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

Well yeah. I do it right. But that was from years of trying to understand that even though I could pull counters off in sparring and fights I could never pull them off in drills.

To be honest is was once I started going against good guys in sparring. Because they would be on me faster than I could react. And I was like. I have to set this up or I just get jumped.

Which sent me down the rabbit hole of learning how to move safely though the space. Rather than see and respond.

Which is the difference between a terrible fighter. And a not so terrible fighter.

But it doesn't matter who does it. Or doesn’t. Unless O.P does it. And that is the reason he can't get good at drills.

Because that's the issue we are trying to solve.

That's the whole reason I asked him at first to see what the issue actually was. Since it could be this, but I've also seen plenty of people where it's just a matter of them panicking and having flinch reactions unless they know exactly what is coming and when.

Though from his other responses, that doesn't seem to be the case. So I guess discussing it further doesn't really help him out at this point lol

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

they think one day they will get fast enough.

They won't.

Agree with you 100% on this. People train in slow speed and believe that one day they will be able to move with "lighting speed". It will never happen.

 

[windwalker099]

You could do the drill at a slow enough pace people can win at it. But nobody does. Because they think one day they will get fast enough.

They won't.

Don't know about "winning" in a drill..


In FMA they have flow drills, to develop rhythm timing, distance, range and angle perception
They start slow, to fast after awhile....

Not so much about catching one movement, as being able to continue the flow and develop a sense of timing, and ability to adjust an adapt to different timing. .

In CMA the have similar drills for the same purposes..

 

[drop bear]

Don't know about "winning" in a drill..


In FMA they have flow drills, to develop rhythm timing, distance, range and angle perception
They start slow, to fast after awhile....

Not so much about catching one movement, as being able to continue the flow and develop a sense of timing, and ability to adjust an adapt to different timing. .

In CMA the have similar drills for the same purposes..

Flow drill is different.

 

[marvin8]

Nobody succeeds at that drill if the person who is feeding the strikes is any good.

You just don't have time.

Reaction (responder) is almost always slower than action (feeder). Reaction + action = response time. There are various ways to increase reaction time with the understanding of fighting principles and experience: don't stand in the fight zone with hands down, distance control, angles, limit your opponent's options, anticipate opponent's movement based on position, control fight from the start, etc.

At 5:10, robot arm experiment here.

stryk.usa
181w

Not as easy as it looks! Even champion strikers such as Stamp Fairtex struggles with the RXT-1 at first when set to "Sparring Mode!"

https://imgur.com/OkpjWnv

Thanks! Very good question! the problem is I often react with the wrong block. For instance, I know I should react to a head kick to the left side of the head by raising my left hand, palm in, to the left side of my head, and blocking with the palm of my right hand. But I often have my hands in the wrong orientation, or wrong position. Maybe I just need lots more repetition: I can remember what to do OK, but I don't have time to think through it. I should be doing the right thing quickly and without thinking, almost as fast as a conditioned reflex. I Can do that OK with, for instance 1-2 jab/cross (i.e. I don't need to think about fist positions, blocking, rotating from hips, stepping-while-punching etc) but of course with an attack I am in control: I'm not there at all with defences. Possibly another thing is that it's not really possible to practice defences on my own as I can practice punches and kicks (to an extent) on my own.

From open stance, Cung blocks head kick, steps forward to the right and throws cross, hook.

https://imgur.com/E7KLQ1h

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

From open stance, Cung blocks head kick, steps forward to the right and throws cross, hook.

https://imgur.com/E7KLQ1h

I like this video. It shows 2 important points:

- In open stance, you should always watch your opponent's back leg roundhouse kick.
- Comb hair is an important defense tool.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Obviously it isn't slow enough though. Because he is not catching the strikes in time.

Hence his issue.

Amd you don't catch the strikes in time Because the drill favours the striker pretty heavily.

You could do the drill at a slow enough pace people can win at it. But nobody does. Because they think one day they will get fast enough.

They won't.

You can train slow and get faster here's how. Train slow at the start so that you become familiar with what you are defending against.

After a few minutes increase the speed. After a successful round increase the speed again. Repeat the speed increase step after you have a successful round. Eventually you'll reach a limit. Once you reach that limit where success is within reach if you can only be a little bit faster, figure out what to do to be faster.

Start looking at things that can be done to increase speed today. Once you increase your speed then increase the speed of the incoming strikes then repeat the process.

When I ran track the team would run up a steep. Each time we ran up the hill we were slow, but on level ground those up hill sprints which were really slow made us faster on level ground.

Training with iron rings make punches faster. The only requirement for becoming faster is to go as fast as you can and then learn to be faster

This is especially true with martial arts because you have to do more than just be fast. You have to learn how to be fast at processing the incoming strikes as well. no matter how fast you are, if you can't recognize the strike then you'll be slow at reacting