President Obama makes war on Muslim country

[billc]

Just on the radio news, an American ship has launched a cruise missle into libya, if this is true, President Obama has just made war on a muslim country.

 

[Makalakumu]

Just on the radio news, an American ship has launched a cruise missle into libya, if this is true, President Obama has just made war on a muslim country.

So much for Hope and Change. Obama is the new Bush!

 

[granfire]

So much for Hope and Change. Obama is the new Bush!

<snork>

 

[K-man]

Just on the radio news, an American ship has launched a cruise missle into libya, if this is true, President Obama has just made war on a muslim country.

Remember Bosnia? They were protecting the Muslims there!

If Obama has just made war on a Muslim country (which he hasn't), who is he supporting? I would have thought the demonstators might have been Muslim too. Isn't that the side the free world is supporting?

 

[Touch Of Death]

Just on the radio news, an American ship has launched a cruise missle into libya, if this is true, President Obama has just made war on a muslim country.

I can only imagine how happy you must be.
Sean

 

[billc]

Should I be happy that President Obama, under orders from Haliburton, is continuing the policy of Blood for Oil. Should I be Happy that Obama has joined the other war mongers, Britain, Canada and France in waging war on another muslim country. He might as well start pronouncing nuclear, nucular, and reading books about goats.

 

[billc]

The drudge report is saying 110 tomahawk missles were launched. If this is confirmed, we have started a second, not third (Iraq and afghanistan are two theaters in the same war) war. I don't think you could say that this is simply a hashing out of different points of view. How's that hope and change working for you.

 

[Makalakumu]

In order for people on the Right to sound sincere when they criticize this, they have to reconsider their stance on the War on Terror. Otherwise, there is simply no logical reason NOT to bomb Libya for not doing what we want. The premises in the WoT and this new theater of war is exactly the same.

The US will use the military industrial complex to overthrow any government that it wishes.

When someone on the Right attacks that premise, that's when I can throw some high fives and shake hands.

 

[Empty Hands]

When someone on the Right attacks that premise, that's when I can throw some high fives and shake hands.

Sadly, this standard leaves us with Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan, and basically no one else.

 

[billc]

Kaddafi called his attackers Crusaders. I wonder if Barak ever thought he would be part of a crusader army.

 

[Big Don]

Remember when it was WRONG to commit troops and weapons without the blessings of Congress?

 

[Makalakumu]

Sadly, this standard leaves us with Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan, and basically no one else.

Consider the fact that Ron Paul keeps winning the CPAC poll. The number of conservatives that oppose empire and interventionism is larger then you think (at least I hope). Basically, any conservative who trends toward Libertarianism is going to be against the unconstitutional wars.

That said, when neocons chime in and criticize Obama for bombing Libya, it's just a bunch of silly Obama hating with no real philosophy behind their words. If these people applied one ounce of rational/critical thought to the echo chamber statements reverberating their vocal cords and keyboards, it might just result in a moment of quiet reflection.

Is it too much to hope for?

 

[Touch Of Death]

Remember when it was WRONG to commit troops and weapons without the blessings of Congress?

Aren't you the guy that kept saying what a loser he was for doing nothing. Now you are in a position to ***** because he did do something. There is no pleasing you.:mst:
Sean

 

[Big Don]

Aren't you the guy that kept saying what a loser he was for doing nothing. Now you are in a position to ***** because he did do something. There is no pleasing you.:mst:
Sean

I said he isn't leading, and, he isn't. Does the fact that he ordered missile strikes on a nation that has no concrete way of threatening the continental US without benefit of a formal declaration of war from Congress make him different from Bush somehow? Because I seem to remember a whole bunch of people on this forum whining about Bush not having Congressional approval to wage war in Iraq.

 

[Makalakumu]

Can the great Gawd Bob create a seppuku smiley?

 

[billc]

Big Don, you are so right. Where is the declaration of war? Obama didn't even get the use of force paper work submitted before he started lobbing missles willy nilly. Congress, smongress, who needs their approval. Oh yeah, republicans do. Democrats can just attack soveriegn nations with no accountability, except for approval from the U.N.

What was the favorite questions the democrat prattled on about at the beginning of the Afghanistan campaign...oh yeah, is it a quagmire yet?

****How many terrorists is this raw use of force going to create? Add to the fact that Obama is not closing Gitmo, another terrorist recruiting tool, and that he is going to use military tribunals, another terrorist recruiting tool, it would seem that Obama is actually worse than Bush. Bush at least was reacting to a direct attack on the country and trying to deter a future threat from Iraq. Why is Obama launching missles into a country that didn't directly attack us. Isn't that what he preached about all during the campaign. How about America's image around the world. Attacking a new muslim country for oil isn't going to help our image much is it.

I used to go to my Iaido class on Saturday's and during the intitial stages of the war there were always anti-war joksters protesting at this one intersection. With Barak the crusader attacking a muslim country, do you think they will come back?

Where is Cindy Sheehan when you need her.

 

[billc]

John Nolte over at bighollywood.com just reminded me, you guys on the left, remember that nobel peace prize thing Obama recieved for doing nothing. Well, it looks like he is doing a lot less than nothing to justify the nobel PEACE PRIZE for freakings sake. Just thought I would pass that around after Mr. Nolte brought it up.

 

[Makalakumu]

Lets turn the boat...

Qadaffi is a known terrorist supporter. He is surrounded by a bunch of muslim extremists who have shown they were dangerous in the past. Why does the Commander In Chief need to beg permission to take out America's enemies? These dirty people are finally getting a chance at the American Dream and you are attacking the only person who can give them liberty?

Obama is a crusader of good, wielding Americas sword of Justice! Sure, we all thought he was a socialist, but damn, I thought we could all gather around and watch the fireworks as the terrorists who caused 9/11 get theirs. They're all muslim extremists and deserve it!

Or maybe you just don't support the troops enough. Is that it? It's America and we're awesome! You can love it or leave it!

 

[Bruno@MT]

In order for people on the Right to sound sincere when they criticize this, they have to reconsider their stance on the War on Terror. Otherwise, there is simply no logical reason NOT to bomb Libya for not doing what we want. The premises in the WoT and this new theater of war is exactly the same.

The US will use the military industrial complex to overthrow any government that it wishes.

When someone on the Right attacks that premise, that's when I can throw some high fives and shake hands.

Thanks.
Unless the US changes its ways, I see no reason for the right wingers to start complaining about this. Sovereignity didn't mean **** when invading Iraq, nor did it when the CIA abducted people and sent them to gitmo, syria and Egypt.

 

[Bruno@MT]

nevermind. See my next post.