Originally posted by akja
Thats exactly what it was about, control.
I'm not out of control just tired of these wannabe fighters trying to judge what they don't understand. If it does not fit their profile and I wasn't taught by an "approved Instructor" then I must be wrong. Ican't fight ecause they said I can't.
I've pretty much had it with the mentality of the "old ways" are the only ways and "you have to learn the whole system before creating your own."
What a bunch of horse crap. "if it aint broke, don't fix it." Wake up, what planet have you been on. I've never heard of a RyuShiKan or a Yili until coming hear, much less any fighters or any note worthy people in general!!!
Sounds like you
are getting a little out of control after all...
Learning an entire style before trying to modify it is actually a good idea... If you were fixing the engine of your car, and addressed only the bits you understood in an attempt to make the entire vehicle work better, you may well end up creating only a redundant system, or worse yet shortcircuiting something else you didn't know was there...
You haven't heard of Yiliquan because a) we are a very small school; b) your profile says you are from California, and we have historically only ever been in the Midwest (Nebraska and Iowa - we now have training groups on the East Coast, Pacific Northwest as well as the Midwest, and I was the first one to take Yiliquan to Japan where it was very well received). While Yili may only be 21 years old, it is based on Xingyi, Taiji and Bagua (which I am sure you have heard of) and Baixingquan (a Northern Chinese style with a very long lineage). Given the arts you have studied and the orientation you have toward MA in general, it doesn't surprise me that you haven't heard of us.
The arts I draw from are proven, time tested fighting arts. Period, not Ryuwhateveritis or any other art I deem not fit for my method of teaching and training.
The arts Yili draws from ar time tested as well, as is Yili in a more limited sense (given the considerably safer environment we live in these days, the "opportunity" for people to "test" their arts is much less than in the past).
What exactly are your criteria for determining an art that you would deem unfit for your method of training and teaching? I am curious how your method is so unique that the elements of other styles are deemed unfit for your use...
The guys I'm referring to have really made me help make a huge decision. I will continue to learn from all of my instructors who don't amount to anything according to the word of whoever he is. And I will teach those arts in a fashion that is demmed approriate by "my instructors!"
Great! But just remember that folks will still want clarification on your training, clarification like you provided elsewhere on this forum. As long as you have that ready for their examination, you shouldn't have any trouble...
But in "my system" to be deemed worthy by the world it will need to be better. I've refrained from saying that out of respect to the MT talkers. Thats what someone is "a talker" if they make judgements without knowing. Talk is cheap and meaningless.
So how about this - how can I obtain a video of what you do, a general orientation video of some sort? I would love to see what you do - maybe I can learn something new! Or maybe not, but I'll never know until I see it... Of course, the same could be said in response to your comments aimed at RyuShiKan, but blanketing over to touch Yiliquan...
There is no room in my system for this traditionalism as you see it. Its a fighting art. Thats what its about being an effiecient fighter. No wasted movement, thats the way I teach and that will never change.
Your comment shows that you have bought into the misinterpretation of Bruce's comment regarding "traditionalism," and have failed to examine Bruce's background for clarification... Traditionalism, in a real traditional system, includes exactly what you are talking about - no wasted movement, practicality as opposed to fluff, all aimed at producing effective fighters. If they didn't do that, they never would have survived to become "traditional." The arts you are probably meaning to identify are often confused for traditional, but they have lost their spirit and intention long ago and now practice their methods robotically, devoid of any real life.
Ryushiki, you think your the ultimate judge of who is who and you bash Americans way of doing things yet your name sounds American! Who are you?
I'm an American. I bash American martial artists all the time, especially the ones that claim ridiculous titles, misused foreign language terms, claims to having ties overseas in some effort to validate the garbage they teach, and those who profess they have come up with a "new and improved" version of some martial art that inevitably results in nothing more than the same old thing taught with the wannabe teacher's personal flair (amounting to no real new approach whatsoever, just the instructor's own ego).
I hope you can continue to post in a less hostile and worked up fashion. I thought that things were progressing nicely after you posted your training background...
Gambarimasu.
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And you guys keep talking about the new and improved. 
