Joe Rogan smack talking TMA's like kung fu

[Hanzou]

When I step behind them I bring/jam my outside leg close in to their legs. It seems to help me the best, maybe because I'm a lightweight. Sometimes I throw that inside leg out behind their legs, (like the vid) bringing them down (me meeting floor first) kind of similar to the counter of a standing arm drag. Then I scramble like crazy, almost in a panic.

Sometimes I grab their legs and pull the legs up, depending. (You know how it is.) And sometimes a rear head but starts it off or comes somewhere in the middle - as was taught to me in, of all things, BJJ.

Interesting. I was taught to do pretty much exactly the same as the vid above until the step behind them. At that point, I would place my hands on the side of their knees, and pop my hip forward. If done correctly, the person should go flying behind you while you stay standing.

I use that throw when people ask me to show them Jiujitsu.

 

[drop bear]

What do you think of this defense in comparison?

Interestingly, I was taught a completely different defense in my Bjj gym. If I find it I'll post it up.

Still dosent work well.I mean go to you bjj gym and try i t and see who you catch

 

[RTKDCMB]

All illegal in Australia.

 

[RTKDCMB]

What do you think of this defense in comparison?

We do a similar one except the defender remains standing.

If you notice the defender goes into a horse stance.

 

[Xue Sheng]

All illegal in Australia.

I don't live in Australia..

Are short staffs and Escrima sticks illegal in Australia?

 

[RTKDCMB]

Are short staffs and Escrima sticks illegal in Australia?

Not sure but I know extendable batons are.

 

[JowGaWolf]

I think escrima sticks are also illegal, but it may only be for Victoria.
That means if I move there then all of my kung fu weapon training will have to be a broom stick and a branch from a tree. There must be some really big fights in Victoria using weapons.

 

[TSDTexan]

Its funny about some jurisdictions.

In the US, our 2nd Amendment recognized the right of an individual to keep and bear arms. These days all folks think this means is firearms. But George Washington carried both a sword and a gun, as did quite a few others.

I see a great deal of stupid in our local ordinances.

This is legal to carry in its packaging. Even if the clear bubblepack is slit for knife removal.

But this is not. Even though it is very unlikely that I can actually kill someone with it.
Its a bokken knife (tantō bo)

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

What do you think of this defense in comparison?

When my arms are inside of my opponent's hug, I would

- separate both of my elbows sideway as far as I can (this can be difficult if my opponent's arms are right on my elbow joints), and
- drop down into a wide horse stance as low as I can

to break that "bear hug from behind" and make my opponent to feel that I just slide off his hug as a "slippery fish". But I may have to do that before my opponent's hug is completely locked on me.

 

[Flying Crane]

Its funny about some jurisdictions.

In the US, our 2nd Amendment recognized the right of an individual to keep and bear arms. These days all folks think this means is firearms. But George Washington carried both a sword and a gun, as did quite a few others.

I see a great deal of stupid in our local ordinances.

This is legal to carry in its packaging. Even if the clear bubblepack is slit for knife removal.
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But this is not. Even though it is very unlikely that I can actually kill someone with it.
Its a bokken knife (tantō bo)
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Oh I could certainly kill someone with it.

 

[TSDTexan]

Oh I could certainly kill someone with it.

You could thrust and crush a windpipe or bury it in an eye socket.
Or maybe get lucky with a "deadly" pressure point strike.

But certainty is being able to do it a required ability to do it consistently and with a great measure of reliability(sp).

I cannot say that about myself.

 

[RTKDCMB]

In the US, our 2nd Amendment recognized the right of an individual to keep and bear arms.

Everyone in the US has the right to wear singlets and short sleeve shirts (you have the right to bare arms). .

 

[TSDTexan]

I think this guy could take Joe Rogan and spank him across his knee after ragdolling him..

 

[Steve]

I think this guy could take Joe Rogan and spank him across his knee after ragdolling him..

Maybe. Maybe not. But that guy does very impressive demonstrations.

 

[kuniggety]

I think this guy could take Joe Rogan and spank him across his knee after ragdolling him..

Demos look cool but demos against over reaching compliant partners is exactly the kind of thing Joe Rogan complains about. I'm not saying if this guy could or couldn't take Joe Rogan because I don't know what his fighting prowess is from the video.

 

[TSDTexan]

1. Demos look cool but demos against over reaching compliant partners is exactly the kind of thing Joe Rogan complains about. I'm not saying if this guy could or couldn't take Joe Rogan because I don't know what his fighting prowess is from the video.

About his prowess:
"the most dangerous man in japan in a real fight"

Said:
Donald Frederick "Donn" Draeger (Captain, USMCRetired)
Who was ranked:
Kyoshi menkyo in Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū, 5th-dan judo, 7th-dan kendo, 7th-dan iaido, Menkyo (post.) in Shindō Musō-ryū Jōdō and 7th-dan in jōdō.

Combat experience: Fought in "the battle of Iwo Jima" and was part of the marine detachment specially trained to invade mainland Japan...

How broad a view and wide an exposure of Japanese martial arts did he have?

His most influential books were probably:

Asian Fighting Arts (written with Robert W. Smith, Tuttle, 1969) and

Martial Arts and Ways of Japan (Weatherhill, 3 volumes, 1973-1974).

He wrote dozens of books on MA.
He was a martial artist.
Was a combat experienced marine from WW2 fighting in one of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific.

Draeger's research, theories, and concepts inspired a generation of martial art researchers and practitioners, and as of 2012, many of his books remain in print.

He reasearch wss 1st hand and exhaustive. . . His view was very broad and at the same time deep.

His fighting assessment of Morio Hiaganna was not something causally tossed out there. A professional who could make such an assessment actually did make that assessment.

It is easy to dismiss a demo.
It can be dangerous to do so.

Morio... isnt just some magic finger pointing Aiki invisible force user. He is a guy who enjoys beating up quite large rocks and concrete walls/support columns, and students who want to "play" with him in his Honbu Dojo.

 

[Hanzou]

I think this guy could take Joe Rogan and spank him across his knee after ragdolling him..

Yeah, I don't think so. I love pretty demos though.

 

[ShotoNoob]

Yeah, I don't think so. I love pretty demos though.

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The trouble is, then, we see some many, many TM Artist's present these 'pretty' demos. Then, go into full contact competitions & fight like kick boxers, often sloppy ones @ that. Get their lights punched out.
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We don't know if the pretty-demo karate practitioners can do real karate until they either do it or don't do it. Me though, I would never write off an Okinawan karate master 'cause his form looked good (pretty).
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But then again, you're trying to recruit self-defense students who will never aspire to the strict standards of Higaonna.
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So good luck with all of that....

 

[Buka]

I think this guy could take Joe Rogan and spank him across his knee after ragdolling him..

That was awesome! I could watch that stuff all day. (probably while hiding behind the couch, peeking)

I'll bet Joe Rogan would love that video as well. Probably praise the heck out of it because he has a great eye for the Arts. He's a really good Martial Artist. Really good. Monkey strong, too.

 

[drop bear]

I am confused.we are looking for a traditional guy to flog Joe rogan and we didn't pick an Andy hug or Sam Greco or something.

About his prowess:
"the most dangerous man in japan in a real fight"

Said:
Donald Frederick "Donn" Draeger (Captain, USMCRetired)
Who was ranked:
Kyoshi menkyo in Tenshin Shōden Katori Shintō-ryū, 5th-dan judo, 7th-dan kendo, 7th-dan iaido, Menkyo (post.) in Shindō Musō-ryū Jōdō and 7th-dan in jōdō.

Combat experience: Fought in "the battle of Iwo Jima" and was part of the marine detachment specially trained to invade mainland Japan...

How broad a view and wide an exposure of Japanese martial arts did he have?

His most influential books were probably:

Asian Fighting Arts (written with Robert W. Smith, Tuttle, 1969) and

Martial Arts and Ways of Japan (Weatherhill, 3 volumes, 1973-1974).

He wrote dozens of books on MA.
He was a martial artist.
Was a combat experienced marine from WW2 fighting in one of the bloodiest battles of the Pacific.

Draeger's research, theories, and concepts inspired a generation of martial art researchers and practitioners, and as of 2012, many of his books remain in print.

He reasearch wss 1st hand and exhaustive. . . His view was very broad and at the same time deep.

His fighting assessment of Morio Hiaganna was not something causally tossed out there. A professional who could make such an assessment actually did make that assessment.

It is easy to dismiss a demo.
It can be dangerous to do so.

Morio... isnt just some magic finger pointing Aiki invisible force user. He is a guy who enjoys beating up quite large rocks and concrete walls/support columns, and students who want to "play" with him in his Honbu Dojo.

So who did he fight to validate his karate works. Or is he just a tough guy who happens to do karate.