I switched from point fighting to full-contact Karate, going from black to white. Here are my initial impressions.

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

No. In fact, that's its most notable weakness.

I just woke up, and my words were jumbled. Meant "Doesn't Kyokushin still allow kicks to the head?" Thought those were fully allowed, not that people had to pull them. And definitely some TBI potential from videos I've seen of kyokushin fighters kicking the head.

 

[TenHands]

I just woke up, and my words were jumbled. Meant "Doesn't Kyokushin still allow kicks to the head?" Thought those were fully allowed, not that people had to pull them. And definitely some TBI potential from videos I've seen of kyokushin fighters kicking the head.

Ah I see.

Yes they're allowed but the TBI potential is in tournaments. In a good dojo, there's a reasonable expectation not to give each other concussions.

 

[mograph]

Ah I see.

Yes they're allowed but the TBI potential is in tournaments. In a good dojo, there's a reasonable expectation not to give each other concussions.

But no such expectation in tournaments?

 

[TenHands]

But no such expectation in tournaments?

Nope. In tournaments, you have to, as my sensei says, "go crazy."

Though in Kyokushin tournaments, the headshots are usually one good hit, as opposed to a bunch of small hits. This is allegedly less dangerous to the brain but I'm not sure.

 

[mograph]

Nope. In tournaments, you have to, as my sensei says, "go crazy."

Though in Kyokushin tournaments, the headshots are usually one good hit, as opposed to a bunch of small hits. This is allegedly less dangerous to the brain but I'm not sure.

Jesus.
For a trophy.

 

[TenHands]

Jesus.
For a trophy.

Says the Canadian loser trash. You guys are just as weak as Americans.

 

[Buka]

You are making my point.
Until you have peed blood for a day or so, you have not had a Hard kidney shot.

I was lucky, I only peed blood twice. But back then if you went to the hospital they kept you overnight. Man, that was really expensive. Each time took over a year to pay them off.

Well, it was an expensive way to learn to keep your elbows in. But it eventually worked.

 

[Buka]

Doesn't Kyokushin still allow punches to the head?

As I’ve said before, I know Kyokushin doesn’t allow certain contacts to the head. But all the Kyokushin guys I know, one of whom is still a close friend to this day, just LOVE to kick and punch to the head. And they don’t care if you smack them upside the head either.

 

[Fungus]

I'm a beginner and had some weak head kicks in sparring, basically a foot slap or a big toe on my head; but no power at all, and I encourage partner to kick me in the head because i need to learn! There is a mile of difference between getting a controlled kick and a follow through heel or shin to the head.

To be honest, I am more worried about getting a toe in my eye in the dojo. This is why short nails are mandatory in the dojo.

Nope. In tournaments, you have to, as my sensei says, "go crazy."

Though in Kyokushin tournaments, the headshots are usually one good hit, as opposed to a bunch of small hits. This is allegedly less dangerous to the brain but I'm not sure.

In competition rules, knock down, you get knocked out no more than every 3 months at least

European knockdown rules..

"1.5 If a fighter loses by K.O. to the head and is declared unconscious by the tournament Doctor it must be recorded in
their European passport and they can’t compete again for at least 3 months or decision by the tournament doctor.
The competitors will be judge according to the EKO Medical Tournament Rules."

I presume some similar rules are in boxing or mma?

 

[JowGaWolf]

I'm a beginner and had some weak head kicks in sparring, basically a foot slap or a big toe on my head; but no power at all, and I encourage partner to kick me in the head because i need to learn! There is a mile of difference between getting a controlled kick and a follow through heel or shin to the head.

To be honest, I am more worried about getting a toe in my eye in the dojo. This is why short nails are mandatory in the dojo.

In competition rules, knock down, you get knocked out no more than every 3 months at least

European knockdown rules..

"1.5 If a fighter loses by K.O. to the head and is declared unconscious by the tournament Doctor it must be recorded in
their European passport and they can’t compete again for at least 3 months or decision by the tournament doctor.
The competitors will be judge according to the EKO Medical Tournament Rules."

I presume some similar rules are in boxing or mma?

A better way to learn how to defend head kicks is reduce the action. Stand still and have your partner kick towards you head but don't make contact. Just Stand there and take note of how his body moves when he kicks. Pay attention to that movement. He may have small tells of when he's going to kick. When you think you understand his kicking motion then try to actually defend against the kicks. The reason you are getting kicked in the head now is because you don't know the movemen that comes before the kick.

 

[Fungus]

A better way to learn how to defend head kicks is reduce the action. Stand still and have your partner kick towards you head but don't make contact. Just Stand there and take note of how his body moves when he kicks. Pay attention to that movement. He may have small tells of when he's going to kick. When you think you understand his kicking motion then try to actually defend against the kicks. The reason you are getting kicked in the head now is because you don't know the movemen that comes before the kick.

We do similar excercises as standalone at times, but my own thinking is that because most partners think they are nice when not kicking the head, and it's 99% body kicks and strikes, so my guard tend to drop.... until that partner comes with a head kicks and surprise me. My lesson is, keep the guard prepare for the fatal strikes at all times, even if 99% are benign. But it's easier if I ger more than 1%.

If I get a foot slap in the head, it only means I deserved it. I like to learn that way. After all, no damage done, because noone tries to actually knock me. Same with low kicks and body strikes. I eat them all until something comes in more power. This is beacuse I try to conserve energy. I know by now which those partners are, and then I change the strategy a bit.

 

[JowGaWolf]

We do similar excercises as standalone at times, but my own thinking is that because most partners think they are nice when not kicking the head, and it's 99% body kicks and strikes, so my guard tend to drop.... until that partner comes with a head kicks and surprise me. My lesson is, keep the guard prepare for the fatal strikes at all times, even if 99% are benign. But it's easier if I ger more than 1%.

If I get a foot slap in the head, it only means I deserved it. I like to learn that way. After all, no damage done, because noone tries to actually knock me. Same with low kicks and body strikes. I eat them all until something comes in more power. This is beacuse I try to conserve energy. I know by now which those partners are, and then I change the strategy a bit.

A tap is fine that works like a reminder of what could have been. I was sparring with my sister-in-law, and she wanted me to kick her hard so she would learn I told her that she didn't want me to do that. My brother looked at me with a seriousness in his eyes that I had never seen before lol that screamed, don't kick her hard. lol.

I won't do more than taps. I think the logic that some people have is that if the strike doesn't hurt then it's not dangerous. I guess I just sparred with too many people who can throw power, so when they tap me, I'm thankful lol

 

[mograph]

Says the Canadian loser trash. You guys are just as weak as Americans.

Charming.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I'd agree on that. But over time it'll get easier to avoid leg kicks then it is now. And if you treat body shots as something you can just soak up, you're going to be in for a very bad surprise one day.

I took a liver shot that made me think I was dying.

 

[Fungus]

I think the logic that some people have is that if the strike doesn't hurt then it's not dangerous.

As energy conservation is one of personal principles my logic, and that combat or fighting will be painful, my priority is that if very active blocking or evaded minor blows drains me more than tensing up and learning how to evage damage with minimal movement I will do the latter.

Thus, I want to learn to distiniguish from the moderate (only painful) attackes from that ones that can do real damage and bring me down.

Then the idea is that i can lure the opponent of thinking they can land a moderate attack on me, and it allows me to land a more powerful attack on them - I consider that a good trade.

I think to just land attack, and avoid every painful attack is not realistic.

In sparring of course we don't do "damage" but the corresponing level is where the pain is not comfortable, and you feel you really need to avoid it. And I like to think there is a window between that, and when serious damage happens. That's the windows I like to be in when sparring, then I learn the prioirities.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Says the Canadian loser trash. You guys are just as weak as Americans.

Wait what? Why the sudden aggression? Too many TBI can cause sudden bursts of aggression. Ask me how I know.

 

[JowGaWolf]

I took a liver shot that made me think I was dying.

lol everyone looks that way with a nice liver shot. The funny thing about it, is that it doesn't have to be full force so long it it's just right. Then it's like.

But not for you lol.

 

[JowGaWolf]

In sparring of course we don't do "damage" but the corresponing level is where the pain is not comfortable,

yep this is where I like to train. These are taps for me. Where it's uncomfortable but not painful. But even a light tap that is comfortable is "not comfortable for me." It means a strike got through and I didn't stop it or evade it. The uncomfortable part for me is where the strike lands. So a tap to my face gives me that feeling that I screwed up. If I can't deal with the tap then there's no way I can deal with it coming in at full speed.

That's a good level where you are training at.