I switched from point fighting to full-contact Karate, going from black to white. Here are my initial impressions.

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I have been studying various point-based Karate and Taekwondo styles for about 9 years. For the past month, I have been doing Kyokushin. Here are my initial thoughts on full-contact fighting:


-Full-contact styles have more adults than point fighting styles. This is a good thing.

-Full-contact is more useful than point fighting. Real fights are close-range slug matches, not long-range games of tag.

-Full-contact is easier than point fighting. The former feels like real fighting and instinct takes over easily. The latter is just so jittery and weird that it becomes an awkward, overly-challenging game of tag.

-Full-contact (at least in the dojo) feels more safe than point fighting. I was getting injuries in point fighting anyway so I didn't see the point of no contact. Besides, in full-contact, everything moves slower so it's easier to place your techniques in the correct target area without missing and hitting a knee or groin. It's almost like point fighting is just a less effective, more dangerous, more difficult version of fighting that doesn't actually prepare you for self defense.

-Every martial artist needs to know what impact feels like. Being hit isn't just pain to the impact area, but a shockwave which rattles that entire area of the body. Being unfamiliar with this feeling will make real self defense impossible.

-Leg kicks hurt a lot. I'll take a hundred liver shots before a single thigh kick. Likewise, I'd much rather kick low than waste energy kicking high, as the success rate of low kicks seems much higher than body and head kicks.

-On that note, everyone needs to know how to leg check. It is a lifesaver (legsaver?).

-Punches to the body aren't that bad. Yeah sure if you relax your abdominals they might suck but just tighten up and you're fine.

-Kata is actually useful. But out of the hundreds of kata, this only applies to a few of them. I find that the applications from more "simple" kata (Seisan, Suparinpei, Sochin, Enpi, etc) is more worthwhile for full-contact fighting than more sophisticated "bunkai bro" kata (Gojushiho, Kushanku, Nipaipo, Chinte, etc). More time must be spent on the "easy" kata than the others.

-I have come to realise the importance of strength training, not just cardio.

-Sanchin is helpful.


Yeah switch to full contact. It's safer, easier, and more practical. Point fighting can go in the bin.
 
I have been studying various point-based Karate and Taekwondo styles for about 9 years. For the past month, I have been doing Kyokushin. Here are my initial thoughts on full-contact fighting:


-Full-contact styles have more adults than point fighting styles. This is a good thing.

-Full-contact is more useful than point fighting. Real fights are close-range slug matches, not long-range games of tag.

-Full-contact is easier than point fighting. The former feels like real fighting and instinct takes over easily. The latter is just so jittery and weird that it becomes an awkward, overly-challenging game of tag.

-Full-contact (at least in the dojo) feels more safe than point fighting. I was getting injuries in point fighting anyway so I didn't see the point of no contact. Besides, in full-contact, everything moves slower so it's easier to place your techniques in the correct target area without missing and hitting a knee or groin. It's almost like point fighting is just a less effective, more dangerous, more difficult version of fighting that doesn't actually prepare you for self defense.

-Every martial artist needs to know what impact feels like. Being hit isn't just pain to the impact area, but a shockwave which rattles that entire area of the body. Being unfamiliar with this feeling will make real self defense impossible.

-Leg kicks hurt a lot. I'll take a hundred liver shots before a single thigh kick. Likewise, I'd much rather kick low than waste energy kicking high, as the success rate of low kicks seems much higher than body and head kicks.

-On that note, everyone needs to know how to leg check. It is a lifesaver (legsaver?).

-Punches to the body aren't that bad. Yeah sure if you relax your abdominals they might suck but just tighten up and you're fine.

-Kata is actually useful. But out of the hundreds of kata, this only applies to a few of them. I find that the applications from more "simple" kata (Seisan, Suparinpei, Sochin, Enpi, etc) is more worthwhile for full-contact fighting than more sophisticated "bunkai bro" kata (Gojushiho, Kushanku, Nipaipo, Chinte, etc). More time must be spent on the "easy" kata than the others.

-I have come to realise the importance of strength training, not just cardio.

-Sanchin is helpful.


Yeah switch to full contact. It's safer, easier, and more practical. Point fighting can go in the bin.

A hundred liver shots before a single thigh kick makes your family design a headstone.

That ain’t right.
 
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A hundred liver shots before a single thigh kick makes your family design a headstone.

That ain’t right.
Haha I knew someone would say this.
What i mean is id rather writhe in pain for an extended period than not be able to walk.
 
A hundred liver shots before a single thigh kick makes your family design a headstone.

That ain’t right.
This, and "punches to the body aren't that bad". Yeah the first few aren't, but if you're in a fight over a few rounds those can really add up.
 
This, and "punches to the body aren't that bad". Yeah the first few aren't, but if you're in a fight over a few rounds those can really add up.
Eh maybe. But I find the amount of body shots to really get to me is far greater than the amount of leg kicks.
 
Eh maybe. But I find the amount of body shots to really get to me is far greater than the amount of leg kicks.
I'd agree on that. But over time it'll get easier to avoid leg kicks then it is now. And if you treat body shots as something you can just soak up, you're going to be in for a very bad surprise one day.
 
There may be more bumps and bruises in point sparring, but there are far, far less head injuries. I'll take that trade any day of the week.
 
I have been studying various point-based Karate and Taekwondo styles for about 9 years. For the past month, I have been doing Kyokushin. Here are my initial thoughts on full-contact fighting:


-Full-contact styles have more adults than point fighting styles. This is a good thing.

-Full-contact is more useful than point fighting. Real fights are close-range slug matches, not long-range games of tag.
Some "real fights" have enough space to control the distance. Martial arts should teach one to fight with an advantage (e.g., positional) rather than trade punches. Kyokushin competition rules can be restrictive.

-But out of the hundreds of kata, this only applies to a few of them. I find that the applications from more "simple" kata (Seisan, Suparinpei, Sochin, Enpi, etc) is more worthwhile for full-contact fighting than more sophisticated "bunkai bro" kata (Gojushiho, Kushanku, Nipaipo, Chinte, etc). More time must be spent on the "easy" kata than the others.

-I have come to realise the importance of strength training, not just cardio.

-Sanchin is helpful.


Yeah switch to full contact. It's safer, easier, and more practical. Point fighting can go in the bin.
At 5:44, "Kata has helped me a lot in transitioning to Karate Combat... My favorite [Shotokan kata] is Nijushiho and Unsu..."

 
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