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Anderson Silva also trained wing Chun and JKD under Dan Inosanto, Roy Nelson also does Kung fu(Continued)
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I was for a while, long enough to get my SAG card. Which gives me a boot load of DVDs of new movies to vote on. I love free movies.Neither here nor there, but I think @Buka is a SAG actor/stuntman, too. Maybe not...
There is a lot less benefit to being good ar wing chun than say being good at boxing for example.There are WC champions. Why does this even matter? we were discussing people who have used WC in the real world
several have been named, some UFC or mma guys also train Chinese arts
so the discussion turns into a non sequitur.
has anyone used WC in real life? Yes
well do They do MMA, sure Dan Theodore has
oh well he wasn't a champ or if he’s a champ he’s an outlier
I think that’s very true, there are Issues in WC that may not exist in say Kick boxing, mush Thai, etcThere is a lot less benefit to being good ar wing chun than say being good at boxing for example.
Even things likeTKD. you could go fight in the Olympics.
And there is no real difference between people who are good and people who are not. When it comes to wing chun.
So people who are good. Do other things.
So that whole base line of hard chargers. That might be pushing combative wing chun just isn't there.
Which makes life very hard for wing chun in that arena.
Compare that to us where we have 14 year olds competing in MMA, JITS and boxing. Training 6 days a week.
In 10 years if they keep at it they could be of a UFC standard. They have the opportunity to compete and develop. They train with other fighters. And if they get really good. They can earn decent money and have amazing experiences.
So they are more likley to become better fighters. Because they have more opportunities to become better fighters. And life is better for them as successful fighter.
I'll bet he doesn't look like a European terrorist, like that KGB guy.Neither here nor there, but I think @Buka is a SAG actor/stuntman, too. Maybe not...
See?Anderson Silva also trained wing Chun and JKD under Dan Inosanto, Roy Nelson also does Kung fu
See I see it a little different. There's nothing in Wing Chun that conflicts with boxing.There is a lot less benefit to being good ar wing chun than say being good at boxing for example.
In boxing, a punch is just a punch. In CMA such as WC, a punch can be a punch followed by a pull.There is a lot less benefit to being good ar wing chun than say being good at boxing for example.
My primary art is heavy grappling with a solid striking foundation, and we never talked about making a grab during a strike. The energy of the two is very different, and it seems counterproductive to the strike to prepare it for also being a grab. But f it’s not prepared as a grab, it seems it’d be useless for grabbing. I don’t understand how you can throw an effective punch and still be able to use that hand to grab.In boxing, a punch is just a punch. In CMA such as WC, a punch can be a punch followed by a pull.
This punch-grab-pull is the kernel of striking art and grappling art integration. Does boxing use a punch to set up a pull? I don't think so. The reason is boxing is 100% striking art.
I do that all the time in sparring. When I throw a punch, if my opponent doesn't block it, it's just a punch. The moment that my opponent blocks it, my punch will turn into a grab-pull. In other words, when I punch, I don't intend to grab-pull. But my opponent's blocking gives me a chance to grab-pull. If my opponent dodges my punch, I will have nothing to grab-pull. But I may still have chance to pull his neck.I don’t understand how you can throw an effective punch and still be able to use that hand to grab.
No, it's not. That's another one of your false truisms. Your statement only shows your ignorance. Please look at my several posts on the previous page. A punch can be many things other than just a punch.In boxing, a punch is just a punch. In CMA such as WC, a punch can be a punch followed by a pull.
This punch-grab-pull is the kernel of striking art and grappling art integration. Does boxing use a punch to set up a pull? I don't think so. The reason is boxing is 100% striking art.
I went through the (very short) list of Wing Chun dudes I think are worthy of the name.
Dr. Mark Phillips. This guy is pretty decent. Dr Mark Phillips - The London Wing Chun Academy
Keep in mind this guy learned judo, Wing Chun, became a black belt BJJ, but now teaches what? Wing Chun.
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YupToo late to edit previous post, but the only thing I can add is based on the examples above: The best WCers are people who practice other martial arts (together with WC or without WC).
Not true, plenty of Judo, BJJ, boxers players cross train…many martial artists do. BJJ guys often get crushed by wrestlersMy point is: if you want to be good chunner you should train other martial arts.
What is kind of strange, because I will not say: if you want to be good judoka train something else. The same with wrestling, karate, boxing etc.
Looks like adepts of most schools of WC do not understand their art.
As a BJJist I do not nedd to learn sambo for being able to use RNC in fight.
Are you a Wing Chun practitioner?My point is: if you want to be good chunner you should train other martial arts.
What is kind of strange, because I will not say: if you want to be good judoka train something else. The same with wrestling, karate, boxing etc.