Fun thread - if I were to do my kata in your style, how would it look?

[TSDTexan]

A practiced fighter has many tools. A beginner has none. We give them a a few at a time, because they're already drinking from a fire-hose.

gospel truth

 

[JR 137]

in TSD i teach the same two warmups.

in Doshinkan, among the warmups, we do Mawashi geri and sidekicks while laying on our side.

When my teacher wants to torture us and gets going with his floor routine, we do those too. Yoko keagi, yoko geri, roll to the other side and mawashi geri. We do each kick slowly and hold them out first to his count, after about 10 times doing it that way, then it’s 10x fast. My glutes definitely feel those, especially the slow and held ones.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

We use front stretch kick/mae keagi. All it really is is a straight leg kicking movement used as a warmup. We also have side stretch kick/yoko keagi. Same thing, only to the side. My previous teacher had us do it in line drills for warmup. My current teacher has only had us do it laying on the floor on our side.

For us, they’re really no different than other athletes doing “hip swings” during warmup. For some reason, we call them kicks, but there’s no combative application.

I use a front and side version, sometimes a rear version. I just call them "leg stretches". I encourage students who have kicks (beginners won't have any yet) to use kicking foot positions, etc. in the stretch.

 

[TSDTexan]

When my teacher wants to torture us and gets going with his floor routine, we do those too. Yoko keagi, yoko geri, roll to the other side and mawashi geri. We do each kick slowly and hold them out first to his count, after about 10 times doing it that way, then it’s 10x fast. My glutes definitely feel those, especially the slow and held ones.

its the hip flexors and low back for me. tall guy

 

[dvcochran]

in TSD i teach the same two warmups.

in Doshinkan, among the warmups, we do Mawashi geri and sidekicks while laying on our side.

I am having flashbacks of the aerobics classes that used to share our Dojang.

 

[dvcochran]

Whether the kicking leg is placed in front or in back depends on where you want your position to be after that kick, no?

In sparring I'll bring it back often, to stretch out the session. In fighting it's always going to land forward. I'm going to take away all of your space. Every inch of it no matter how I have to move to hunt you down. To me, fighting is about taking control of space. In grappling it's the same, just done in a different way.

I would say that is about 80% true for me. There are times I will use distance to keep an opponent in the sweet spot of my striking/kicking range, especially if I figure out I have a speed advantage. You can drive someone bonkers if you can keep them from getting inside your range.

 

[JR 137]

I am having flashbacks of the aerobics classes that used to share our Dojang.

I’ve referred to it as the Jane Fonda workout. That goes over a lot of people’s heads nowadays. Oddly enough, most adults at the dojo are older than me. Maybe senility is kicking in. Or they’re just not playing into my warped sense of humor on this one. Neither one would surprise me.

 

[Buka]

. There are times I will use distance to keep an opponent in the sweet spot of my striking/kicking range, especially if I figure out I have a speed advantage.

I kind of want to carve that on a tablet, bring it up a mountain, and leave it for young Karate guys to find.

 

[TSDTexan]

I am having flashbacks of the aerobics classes that used to share our Dojang.

....
legwarmers and tights.....
some of the distracting sights.....
that a martial arts should be blind to.

 

[pgsmith]

How do your kata compare to something like this? If I were to adapt a Taekwondo form (not necessarily the one in the video) to your style, what sort of changes would I make to it?

Keep your limbs to yourself, and add a sword.

To me, fighting is about taking control of space. In grappling it's the same, just done in a different way.

It's interesting that this is exactly what is taught in the Japanese sword arts. It's all about taking and controlling the center. We are taught that whoever does so will be able to kill the other guy.

 

[Buka]

Keep your limbs to yourself, and add a sword.


It's interesting that this is exactly what is taught in the Japanese sword arts. It's all about taking and controlling the center. We are taught that whoever does so will be able to kill the other guy.

As @Tony Dismukes recently said in the Kenpo thread about the understanding of distance being the most important aspects of fighting, and what you're saying now - yes, this definitely seems to be the case, distance and position. Without the two, where the hell are you? (both literally and figuratively)

For a striker, besides your own training on this, you can learn a lot by watching other people in striking arts as well. If you watch the distance people like to be at in various aspects of a match/session/fight, you'll add to your knowledge. Heck you can even do this by watching matches on TV, especially if they're skilled fighters. And if they're NOT skilled fighters, you can notice a lot of distance mistakes that can help you once you learn to recognize them easily and quickly. Obviously, the more actual experience you have will dictate how much you can learn from observation. At the very least, you should exercise this within your own sparring group. Study them, start picking them apart.

I've never worked with swords, but I have done a lot with knives. Distance is obviously key. I can only imagine what the intricacies of swordplay must be like, especially concerning the distances. I know I'd be a skewer within the first minute. Hopefully, there will be onions.

 

[Flying Crane]

Mmmmmmm...Buka-kabobs...with onions...

 

[JR 137]

This is what kata is supposed to look like in Seido, as performed by the late, great Shuseki Shihan William Oliver. 4th dan kata Kanku.

I’ve seen video of Kaicho Tadashi Nakamura (our founder) performing it the same way, but the video is very old and choppy. One of those old-school video projectors converted to digital.

Edit: Our version of Kanku comes directly from Kyokushin. Mas Oyama heavily modified the Shotokan versions.

 

[Flying Crane]

This is what kata is supposed to look like in Seido, as performed by the late, great Shuseki Shihan William Oliver. 4th dan kata Kanku.

I’ve seen video of Kaicho Tadashi Nakamura (our founder) performing it the same way, but the video is very old and choppy. One of those old-school video projectors converted to digital.

Edit: Our version of Kanku comes directly from Kyokushin. Mas Oyama heavily modified the Shotokan versions.

His extension and commitment in each technique is good.

 

[Buka]

William Oliver was one hell of Karate man. It's difficult to watch him without getting all psyched up. What an inspiration he was. And, man, he could fight, whooooeee, could that boy fight.

 

[dvcochran]

This is what kata is supposed to look like in Seido, as performed by the late, great Shuseki Shihan William Oliver. 4th dan kata Kanku.

I’ve seen video of Kaicho Tadashi Nakamura (our founder) performing it the same way, but the video is very old and choppy. One of those old-school video projectors converted to digital.

Edit: Our version of Kanku comes directly from Kyokushin. Mas Oyama heavily modified the Shotokan versions.

Man Oh man, is that ever legit. Beautiful side kicks. Didn't expect that.

 

[KenpoMaster805]

My Kata is very Different we used neutral bow forward bow close kneel wide kneel horse stance cat stance reverse bow reverse wide kneel diamond stance and we used kicks block and punches and our kata has left handed right handed and some of our kata are in the technique but shorten

 

[JR 137]

Man Oh man, is that ever legit. Beautiful side kicks. Didn't expect that.

Watching that video never gets old for me. My teacher has so many great stories about him. Everyone says as rest of a MAist as he was, he was an even better teacher, and even better person. One of the people I genuinely wish I’d met. Maybe when that great dojo in the sky calls my number. Hopefully that’s a very long time away though.

 

[Prostar]

I was once judging forms at a tournament in North Carolina. One guy got up and did a very Isshinryu form. His technique looked very Taekwondo. A freind of mine owns an Isshinryu school and I visited many times so I was very familiar with their forms.

The harshness of my score reflected my disappointment .

 

[Buka]

I used to love judging forms at tournaments. Which is odd since I don't actually train any forms.