At the end of the day I believe most martial arts teach a lot that unpractical for self defence simoy because most street fights are simple, punches, blocks, kicks grabs and knees and elbows and there's no fluidity or timing it's just free for all. So there's a lot in pretty much every martial art that frankly wouldn't be useful at all but who cares
but that MOST street fight, street fights which contain at least one ma have fluidity and timing , it should be what the training gives you
Couldn't care less if it does or doesn't. I enjoy what I do couldn't give a damm if it helps me in a fight or not
if you don't " give a dam" why have you created thread to discus the relative merits ? It's seems you want to give your view but then shut down anyone who disagrees
He hasn't tried to shut anyone down.
Seriously.....why do you always try to start arguments in every single thread....I haven't shut anyone down I've said my own opinion that I don't care about fighting and that it doesn't matter to me you can have your opinion doesn't make a difference to me
well that nice of you, to let me have an opinion, you have invited views, then told me you don't give a dam for the opinion ive expressed, then accused me of starting arguments by giving opinions that are different to yours.
Bye bye go find yourself another argument
Agreed. In my opinion, if the quality of the training and instruction is high, then the self defense skills are always there. But it does not need to be your first or even second or third or fourth priority in why you train.
Yeah I mean there's nothing wrong with being cautious and training for self defence but really unless you're a total ******* you're not likely to need to use it that many times maybe 1-3 times if your unlucky. At the end of the day you've got to enjoy it. Martial arts isn't a job the only people who genuinely /need/ training for their lives is army and police because they know they'll always be in dangerous situations. I mean of course you'll pick up self defence as you train I mean I'm pretty sure I could handle myself if some drunk takes a swing at me but I don't care about it. I couldn't care less about who I can take out or if I can get a knock out blow on someone or if my technique works under pressure. It just doesn't concern me
Depends what you’re doing. Not all of MA has a win-lose component.
MA is also fun when you are not losing. When your opponent
That doesn't count as fighting that's training or competing. Fighting is in the streets. Anything in a ring or a gym is simply a match
Whats the difference to you? IMO fighting is any act of combat/agression. Doesn't matter if I challenge someone to a 1 on 1 match, defend myself from an aggressor, or stab someone who bothers me. As far as I'm concerned, any situation where I'm intending harm to the other person (including kickboxing or MMA matches) would be considered fighting.
it counts as combat!!!! The title of the thread is COMBAT V art, not street fighting v art, which is a completely different discussion and one you are slowly morphing in to
That's pretty close to my view. I'll often even include in my use of "fight" those instances that don't include the intent to harm (BJJ/Judo/wrestling matches), depending upon context.
Which is why I separate into 3, Combat, Sport, and Art, where Combat is for survival.
