Jet li is possible: i would give him a 8 or 9 acting, but don't know what his actual MA skill is. If he is 9 Acting, 6 MA that gets him 54 AxM, or if he's 8 Acting 7 MA that gets him a 56 AxM
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It depends on your opinion of performance wushu as a martial art. Apparently he has won a number of gold medals in Chinese wushu championships, but those are oriented towards artistic performance of forms rather than indicating anything about actual fighting ability. If you count that sort of competition as martial arts, then he should be worthy of at least a 6 or 7.Jet li is possible: i would give him a 8 or 9 acting, but don't know what his actual MA skill is. If he is 9 Acting, 6 MA that gets him 54 AxM, or if he's 8 Acting 7 MA that gets him a 56 AxM
Eh, disagreement there then. I was also being a bit generous to attempt to get someone past the 50 markI don't see Jet Li as a 9 for acting. Maybe a 6.
LOL. That's how grade inflation starts... skewing the scale to chase a particular score.Eh, disagreement there then. I was also being a bit generous to attempt to get someone past the 50 mark
I ranked Ed O'Neil = 35 AxM (7 Martial Arts x 5 Acting).
I agree with you about acting, but I think he's a character actor all the way.
Tony, I think you're pretty close with Donnie Yen.
Ronda Rousey = 18 AxM (9 MA and 2 Acting)
Gina Carano = 7 AxM (7 MA and 1 Acting)
Mickey Rourke = 20 AxM (5 Acting and 4 MA)
If I avoid inflating, i'd still give him a 7. if he is a 6 or 7 MA-wise, that leaves him in the 40sLOL. That's how grade inflation starts... skewing the scale to chase a particular score.
But I'm looking at Tony's scale as he described it, where a 2 is twice as good as a 1, and a 3 is twice is good as a 2 and 4x as good as a 1 ("good" being very subjective). I think Jet Li is a good actor, but not one who is among the elites in that area. I think he's a solid 5, but as you say, this is just my opinion in an admittedly subjective area.
You seem to constantly think that any martial artist is a performer or actor and only combat sports learn to fight. Not sure where you got that idea but just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it true.you all still confuse martial arts with combat sports.
i think so: li, chan, yen > martial artists and therefore actors, not fighters.
rousey, rutten, tyson > fighters but not actors. while bas rutten don't act that bad in his comedy roles.
For wushu yes, not for other martial arts. And Wushu is the only one china had an effect on AFAIKuhm it comes from experience.
sure there might be maists who also train to fight but most of them are just... actors.
thats what communist china made out of it.
Ok, I think I misunderstood you initially. I'll agree about wushu, thought you were suggesting that all TMA/CMA's are not fighting stylesbut they also made martial arts big with their films. it just fits good to the topic.
which martial arts actors do we know who competed in a fighting style? chuck norris and van damme in their karate styles, i think of spontanously. jet li was competing in wushu forms or such, so not in fighting.
Hell of an actor, though.The only problem with Robert Downey Jr is his instructor, Eric Oram.
Oram seems a little Star Struck to me. And being a William Cheung student, Oram is lacking in ability.