actually you could use it with other objects...are you five?
do you think a school like this isn’t a mcDojo?
maybe you should use some common sense like an adult and stop trying to impress the teens in here
Calling Somebody's Dojo A McDojo Is Offensive
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do you think a school like this isn’t a mcDojo?
maybe you should use some common sense like an adult and stop trying to impress the teens in here
What legitimate art won’t help a student against an uncooperative assailant?I understand your sentiment, but there are many ‘legitimate martial arts’ that won’t help the student consistently defend themselves against an uncooperative, fully-resisting, aggressive assailant.
I think a McDojo is one where the provenance of the techniques is deliberately misrepresented to lend the art an air of ancient superiority because all know, old things are much better than modern things
dvcochran
Grandmaster
Just trying to get a sense of where you are coming from.
I watched the chi energy video on you of your last post and yes, that is in my spoof category. However, to me this is outside the realm or definition of a McDojo for me.
So, where is your point coming from?
Hi Mider,
I am confused.
You have stated that is a dojo doesn't teach self defense or things that could be used as self defense then it is useless or a McDojo .
OK
Then you state here that DD is to use common sense as the techniques could be used for self defense by translating them to another object.
So is it possible that even the worse schools be what ever definition (as you asked for people to define define) still have something to offer, such as Run before engage and physical activity and ... well anything that could be used to defend themselves.
Just curious as the circle has closed and I am confused by the logic.
PS: I teach FMA, and use improvised weapons, my favorite was a full tuna fish can I found in a parking lot.
I have degrees in Computer Science and work as an engineer , with minors in Math, and Logic (Philosophy).
So I get improvised.
I get common sense - I design stuff all day / week / month / year / career long for people who seem to not get it or not have it.
I get some schools are more sport.
I get some schools are more self defense.
Do you teach Grappling with a knife? Because if you don't I could easily argue that it is a common weapon and people will also end up being grappled.
Where does it end?
Fire arms? Yes I have been trained to use one, and I appreciate clearing, bring online and firing before the target is able to engage.
I am really curious.
What makes you think it is?
Do you think 'Bullshido' and 'McDojo' mean the same thing?
FWIW that is Iida Hiroo of Daito ryu Muden Juku - a legitimate teacher of Daito ryu Aikijujutsu, the art studied and modified by Ueshiba Morihei to create Aikido.
I’m done arguing with you, later
A Dojo that says they’re teaching you self defense should do that.
and yes you seem to lack common sense, it’s the running Krueger effect I think. Have a nice day
Define coming from?
Didn't realise I was, honestly. Was just curious - hence the questions. No worries though, later.
I’m sorry but you asked me a silly question...I’m wondering as an adult why you wouldn’t have the common sense to not know what a mcDojo is
i mean This is a discussion...but in real life when some young kid learns this nonsense or a woman looking to protect herself And finds it doesn’t work and gets hurt...I mean yeah...I’m just saying someone like you should know better.
dvcochran
Grandmaster
Define 'running Krueger'
I’m still waiting for you to define define, I mean have you heard of a dictionary or Google?
dvcochran
Grandmaster
def·i·ni·tion
noun
- 1.
a statement of the exact meaning of a word, especially in a dictionary.
"a dictionary definition of the verb"
2.
the degree of distinctness in outline of an object, image, or sound, especially of an image in a photograph or on a screen.
"the clarity and definition of pictures can be aided by using computer graphics"
lklawson
Grandmaster
In what context? European fencing with the smallsword was considered "self defense" at the time (ever wonder where the term "fence" comes from?). 19th Century bare knuckle boxing was considered "The Art of Defense" but strangely none of the old manuals have a ton to say about defending against a knife. See where this is going?
Running. Yes, go on...
lklawson
Grandmaster
So have you managed to get everyone to agree with your definition yet? While you're at it explain the purpose of Kata. That should be just as fun.
Okay, and what if the dojo doesn't make that claim?
Not really a silly question. He's trying to understand your point - that's part of communication. If he responds to a misunderstanding, then his response wouldn't really add to the discussion.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
What if I decide that your school is a McDojo? Can I call it a McDojo and badmouth it all over town? Just because I have decided that it meets my definition?
I don’t have a school...but what if you decided Bas Ruttens school was a mcDojo...is that true, would anyone listen?
