Calling Somebody's Dojo A McDojo Is Offensive

[Gyakuto]

FYI, presenting such a list would constitute art bashing and would thus be against the rules of this website. Kudos to Gyakuto for refraining from specifying which arts would be on such a list in his opinion.

And of course that’s why I didn’t…errr you know….cos I know all the rules and… the..the things and stuff

No, it’s just not polite!

 

[Unkogami]

Rather than me presenting a list and risk offending the practitioners of a particular art…a gentleman and a (retired) scholar would never do such a thing… ...

Maybe you shouldn't have made the comment in the first place if you are too shy to say.

 

[Unkogami]

No "art" performs anything. Individuals do or do not perform successfully in a given situation.

 

[Gyakuto]

Maybe you shouldn't have made the comment in the first place if you are too shy to say.

Too shy? Please refresh yourself of the rules of this forum.

 

[Unkogami]

Too shy? Please refresh yourself of the rules of this forum.

I don't think the rules require passive-aggressiveness. Better not to make such comments in the first place.

 

[Gyakuto]

No "art" performs anything. Individuals do or do not perform successfully in a given situation.

That suggests that it is always the practitioner that fails and never the combat art they are performing.

 

[Unkogami]

That suggests that it is always the practitioner that fails and never the combat art they are performing.

The point being that anthropomorphizing an 'art' is irrational. Individuals do or do not do.

 

[bill miller]

Oh! You just said ‘List?’ and I thought you required a list of things from me. I chose a list of my favourite guitarists

Glad to see Steve Via at the top!!

 

[Gyakuto]

Glad to see Steve Via at the top!!

Oh, my absolute favourite!

 

[Flying Crane]

Glad to see Steve Via at the top!!

Vai is excellent, if you like that kind of playing. I’m ok with it.

For me, nobody beats David Gilmore.

 

[Gyakuto]

I like Vai’s lack of bluesines…and recently his tonal centre has become harder to home in on. But I like Gilmour’s bluesy playing to…it’s much easier to copy!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

List?

Now wait a minute, when I asked you a similar question you said something along the lines of most dojos are babysitting and belt selling, though you declined to name any particular art or dojo. Generalized comments of this nature are sure to draw some attention. It’s not that I necessarily disagree with the sentiment, but rather the brusque and abrupt delivery of the comment, which is somewhat adversarial in tone. Unless of course you are trying for that.

 

[Unkogami]

Now wait a minute, when I asked you a similar question you said something along the lines of most dojos are babysitting and belt selling, though you declined to name any particular art or dojo. Generalized comments of this nature are sure to draw some attention. It’s not that I necessarily disagree with the sentiment, but rather the brusque and abrupt delivery of the comment, which is somewhat adversarial in tone. Unless of course you are trying for that.

I didn't denigrate any art or tradition. If I tell you that fast food sucks, does that mean I'm denigrating food?

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I didn't denigrate any art or tradition. If I tell you that fast food sucks, does that mean I'm denigrating food?

Fair enough. I’m just ribbing you because you sound grumpy. I actually couldn’t care less if you denigrate whomever/whatever, including me.

 

[Unkogami]

Fair enough. I’m just ribbing you because you sound grumpy. I actually couldn’t care less if you denigrate whomever/whatever, including me.

I must admit I am generally cantankerous.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I didn't denigrate any art or tradition. If I tell you that fast food sucks, does that mean I'm denigrating food?

I didn't denigrate any art or tradition. If I tell you that fast food sucks, does that mean I'm denigrating food?

I must admit I am generally cantankerous.

Takes one to know one.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

No "art" performs anything. Individuals do or do not perform successfully in a given situation.

The art (more correctly, the training system) matters.

 

[Steve]

FYI, presenting such a list would constitute art bashing and would thus be against the rules of this website. Kudos to Gyakuto for refraining from specifying which arts would be on such a list in his opinion.

Really? I thought folks trained for all kinds of reasons. Either we endorse that or we don’t.

 

[MrBigglesworth]

I remember hearing about a U.K.-based Japanese senior swordsman who applied to the Japanese government for the legal papers to challenge someone with whom he had an argument, to a duel to-the-death! He received them and the other guy avoided him thereafter!

Reminds me a little of the first school I trained in, years ago.
The dojo was in a pretty rough area, and from time to time you'd get people coming in, trying to the on the sensei.
He'd calmly turn around to the pigeon-holes where the forms lived, grab an indemnity form ("In the event of death or permanent disfigurement..." lol) and ask them to sign. Don't think he had too many takers.

 

[Mider]

Define nonsense.

Define define ?