Bullying

[MJS]

Good policy, but I wonder how many of those kids have facebook on their phones?

Like it or not, guys, social networking isn't going away. It's not a fad.

Agreed. With technology today, I'd bet a good portion of the students have cell phones and have FB access. I wonder what the school can do if someone uses their cell phone to bully someone on FB. They may not be able take the phones away, but I wonder if there is some action the school could take.

 

[WC_lun]

the other case you are referring to is here in Missouri. The woman was eventually charged with some misdominors.

 

[yardmeat]

Successful suicides are relatively rare, while suicide attempts, whether earnest attempts or not, are startlingly common.

Attempts are certainly far more common than successful suicides, but it is important to remeber that suicide is not a rare cause of death. It is the third leading cause of death amongst teenagers, the second leading cause of death amongst college students, and the second leading cause of death amongst 25-34 year olds.

Personally, even in situations where a person commits suicide, even as a plea for help more than a sincere desire for death, suggests that the kid is depressed and needs some help.

Absolutely.

 

[Blade96]

It's from an overdeveloped sense of self-worth. Nobody has ever LIKED being bullied, but it never crushed me to the point of murder or suicide. Why do todays kids seem so wrapped up in their sense of self worth that this now seems like an all too frequented option?

In the sense that embarrassment, or an assault on their self-esteem results in shootings or suicide?

Yup.

You have to be trippin'. I attempted suicide as a teen because i was bullied and it wasnt because of any assault on self esteem - because i had none. That's what abusers do - they take away any self esteem or self worth you have.

I really don't think you should have to earn respect. People should be taught to show respect as children, and show it at all times. Isn't that what the martial Arts is supposed to teach?
Sean

Nope. I think respect should be earned. I think parents have an entitlement complex a lot - as if they feel they are entitled to respect from children just cause they gave birth to them no matter how they treat children. Its like the saying 'respect your elders' but the elders may disrespect younger people. Respect should swing both ways! If one wants respect even from their family and kids they too have to earn it.

 

[Steve]

Nope. I think respect should be earned. I think parents have an entitlement complex a lot - as if they feel they are entitled to respect from children just cause they gave birth to them no matter how they treat children. Its like the saying 'respect your elders' but the elders may disrespect younger people. Respect should swing both ways! If one wants respect even from their family and kids they too have to earn it.

Once again, I think that just about everyone "deserves" to be treated with respect, and that this is a terrific thing to be teaching our kids. Not everyone should be respected. Respect is earned. Treating people respectfully should be a given, even if you don't respect them.

 

[Touch Of Death]

Nope. I think respect should be earned. I think parents have an entitlement complex a lot - as if they feel they are entitled to respect from children just cause they gave birth to them no matter how they treat children. Its like the saying 'respect your elders' but the elders may disrespect younger people. Respect should swing both ways! If one wants respect even from their family and kids they too have to earn it.

Whoa, I think you are way off base here. First of all, we are talking about a biblical commandment, secondly, making a habbit of being disrespectfull in general, is a lifestyle choice. People and their children will all be much happier and have less of a victim mentality, if they are taught to show respect.
Sean

 

[Master Dan]

I've worked in suicide prevention (QPR) for about four years now. I've lost two friends to suicide. Few people know this but, in the US, suicides outnumber homicides about two to one.



I am not here to say that the bullies in these situations are innocent. They are cruel, inhumane, and often criminal. They should be held accountable for their behavior, but they should not (with rare exception) be held accountable for the behavior of those that they tease. Little can come of the blame game in these situations. The best we can do is ask ourselves if we know anyone who is in danger and do our best to help.

good stats above thank you I live and teach in an area that has the highest rate of suicide in the nation multiple some weekly young as 13 recent my best friend lost is son of 13 but under investigation starte out as suicide then group smoking pot and playing Rusian rulet? still more to come even so many self hangings this last year.

What is alarming about the teen age group is the mentality to copy cat. There is even a new fad on the internet of suicide packs between them and mulitple suicides. The current fear not is if this Rusian Rulet rumor or not gets out others will copy and start?

Big battle her with the school dstrict they want to save money by eliminating the high schoo VP principal position which requires mental health and counciling certification and the board publically stated that well we did not need it at the grade school??? Yeh 8-10 year olds are not killing them selves its teenagers if you gave a crap about the kids you would understand that its clasic egos and politics and the kids are suffering!!!!

I appreciate your comments

 

[Blade96]

Treating people respectfully should be a given, even if you don't respect them.

People and their children will all be much happier and have less of a victim mentality, if they are taught to show respect.
Sean

That sounds good. and i follow that way, i show everyone respect and am nice to everyone, unless they disrespect me or give me a reason not to like hurt me. Then I will not show respect to them.

 

[Touch Of Death]

That sounds good. and i follow that way, i show everyone respect and am nice to everyone, unless they disrespect me or give me a reason not to like hurt me. Then I will not show respect to them.

Thats what its all about.:highfive:
Sean

 

[Blade96]

ye do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around....

Thats what its all about.

lol, sorry :angel:

That post here reminded me of that funny song.

 

[Touch Of Death]

ye do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around....



lol, sorry :angel:

That post here reminded me of that funny song.

While I have no proof, The Native American's that live in Idaho, where the song was written, use the term "Hokah!" during pow wows a lot. I wonder if the song has its roots in that term.
Sean:idea:

 

[Blade96]

could be, who knows.

 

[MJS]

Thought these were interesting

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39834444/ns/us_news-life/

TRENTON, N.J. — New Jersey lawmakers introduced an "anti-bullying bill of rights" Monday that one advocate said would be the toughest state law of its kind in the nation, a proposal that follows the widely publicized suicide of a Rutgers University student who was humiliated online.
The proposal was introduced by a bipartisan group of legislators and advocates and seeks to augment laws New Jersey passed eight years ago. It would require anti-bullying programs in public K-12 schools and language in college codes of conduct to address bullying.

Now this is pretty sad:
http://www.courant.com/community/hartford/hc-hartford-mom-arrested-1026-20101025,0,1808405.story

The mother of a 12-year-old has been arrested for sending her son to school with weapons because he was being bullied, according to police.
Police said that they were notified that a child at Burns Elementary School had a pistol-style BB gun and a folding knife in his backpack Friday afternoon

And then this:
http://www.middletownpress.com/articles/2010/10/24/news/doc4cc3cbca11505040482137.txt