Okay, but if you're refining your writing style, your aim is to be a better writer, regardless of what your goal is. The very fact that you're spending time improving a skill means that your aim is to improve THAT skill.
Now, what is my aim if I'm in Japanese pajamas learning how to break someone's wrist? You can slap all the fancy/enlightened/religious junk you want to that practice, but the bottom line is that your aim is to become very good at snapping someone's wrist, and causing harm to that person. When I'm rolling around on a mat perfecting a triangle choke, my aim isn't to become the next Rickson Gracie or Gordon Ryan, my aim is to become proficient at choking someone unconscious (maybe even to death) with my legs.
Why are we playing these silly games? You're learning a martial art because you want to become proficient at fighting. You can apply fighting to a multitude or activities, from self defense, to competition, to confidence building, to discipline, but it ALL revolves around fighting. If you wanted to become a better person or get in shape via a nonviolent activity, you'd be doing calligraphy or ballet. You wouldn't be learning how to literally hurt, maim or kill people.
I see what you're saying, but again like I said, I think it's important to note the context of means and end. MA does involve what we could call fighting (to varying degrees or levels). It does. But then you're saying that becoming a better fighter is the sole intention. You can use the template of "fighting" for other purposes, and improving your fighting is the vehicle or means for achieving those OTHER ends (I wouldn't even call them ends/goals).
Yes, you are getting better at fighting as an interim intention, but what I'm saying is that it doesn't have to be the end goal or whole entire reason you're doing it. Now I'm by no means saying oh martial arts is therefore some blank canvas you can just insert anything into, it is very specifically "thing", but like the writing example, it can moreso be the "medium" for exploring other realms of life. Fighting is what you do, getting better at the fighting (within the context of the art and what that actually means) happens, and this getting better at it doesn't have to be the sole intention. Do you sort of see what I'm getting at it? You are improving that skill, but you are not improving that skill in order to improve that skill (although that is a thing that is definitely focused on).
You seem to just dismiss this is as some pseudo-religious yap which is interesting. But I'm not saying that approach is better; those just wanting it to be solely about improving fighting ability is totally 100% fine.
And I'm by no means denying that it involves fighting, of course it does and yes it does all revolve around that. But how it's contextually conceived of and held matters. I'm saying it's a tool and not the end itself, see below for more rambling haha.
no but they are writing. The problem is that not all MA does involve fighting. And where it doesnāt take the development of fighting skill seriously, any other ancillary benefits will be undermined because the activity itself lacks integrity.
Yeah and I guess it's very much art-specific as to what that fighting means. Capoeira fighting is different to say kickboxing fighting, yet there is an underlying similarity in the practice of what "fighting" might entail. Not in exact detail though.
But it being a martial art, has to be related to fighting or "martial" activities in some degree or another, you would think. But I feel this would be a whole other topic haha what does fighting mean, are there things that are fighting-related (technique practice technically is not "fighting", but is related to and can help improve it etc etc etc).
But I understand what you're saying. It's a complex topic and I don't really have any firm answers, because then it comes down to having an ultimate definition of what fighting means, AND what it means to develop fighting skill (and whether that is purely a contextual thing within the art or if you mean legitimately defending oneself), AND whether the ancillary benefits mean absolutely zilch because you weren't reeeally improving 'proper' fighting skills therefore it lacks integrity... there's alot here haha.
I guess my point is that, like writing, tea ceremony, whatever, there's richness in the process that can be incredibly rewarding, that isn't about a linear, measurable means to an end format. Sometimes it doesn't have to be do activity A to improve activity A. But do activity A as a tool of exploration, and improving activity A allows and opens up more depth and understanding for other stuff. Developing and improving a skill yes, working towards that yes, the sole end goal that this is ALL about? Not necessarily...