ballen0351
Sr. Grandmaster
I just don't think most people are really tired of this yet. They won't vote 3rd party because they just are not bothered enough yet.
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And the two dominant parties have locked the electoral process up, and make it damned hard for any of the other parties to get a seat at the table. At best, they end up at the equivalent of the kid's table...
And the two dominant parties have locked the electoral process up, and make it damned hard for any of the other parties to get a seat at the table.
I just don't think most people are really tired of this yet. They won't vote 3rd party because they just are not bothered enough yet.
Although diversity is good, too much can lead to total instability. Look at the post war political history of Italy. They had 61 changes of government between 1946 and 1994. It hasn't been much better since then either.Honestly, my opinion is that we need like 10 viable parties, where no one party would have the numbers necessary to form a sole majority in Congress. That way, they would have to work together and could only push through any legislation by working together and forming coalitions.
Most voters don't care about politics. They vote Republican or democrat because that what they always do. They don't know what either party even stands for.
Both the Libertarian and Green parties have repeatedly sued for inclusion in the Infomercials, err I mean the "debates".
In 2004 Green Party candidate David Cobb and Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik were arrested seeking entry to the debates.
In 2012 Jill Stein and Cheri Honkala, the Green presidential and vice-presidential nominees were likewise arrested for attempting to gain access to the debates.
Until these farces are ended and legitimate 3rd parties such as the Libertarian and Green parties are allowed to participate, most people will continue to believe they must continue to vote for evil.
Perhaps we should be more specific, the special interest groups have locked the appearance of a two party system into place. The major players in our democracy have ossified their system of accessing power.
Almost. Rand Paul and Gary Johnson were notably excluded from many national debates in 2012, regardless of whether they had met the requirements for an invitation.I'm unfamiliar with this story, so what does "attempting to gain access" mean? Were they arrested for putting their names on ballots or trying to sneak onto the podiums?
I'm unfamiliar with this story, so what does "attempting to gain access" mean? Were they arrested for putting their names on ballots or trying to sneak onto the podiums?
The first report from St. Louis is in - and presidential candidates Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were just arrested. Badnarik was carrying an Order to Show Cause, which he intended to serve the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD). Earlier today, Libertarians attempted to serve these same papers at the Washington, D.C. headquarters of the CPD - but were stopped from approaching the CPD office by security guards.
Fred Collins reported to me from the ground that Badnarik and Cobb are in great physical condition and great spirit.
The debate things kinda tricky since you have to draw the line some where you cant have 30 people trying to debate you won't get enough time to talk. But I do think more then just the big two should be involved. I also would like to see more debates then two or three. Hell they start campaigning 2 years before the election it seems like so they can add a few more debates in the mix.
The debate things kinda tricky since you have to draw the line some where you cant have 30 people trying to debate you won't get enough time to talk. But I do think more then just the big two should be involved. I also would like to see more debates then two or three. Hell they start campaigning 2 years before the election it seems like so they can add a few more debates in the mix.
I would like to see some ACTUAL debating, not being asked questions and given opportunities to present speeches. Ain't gonna happen anytime soon, though. We're stuck in the soundbite/opinion poll approach, and I think it's only going to get worse.
Yeah, it's theater not debate.