Wing Chun vs MMA
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wckf92
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mograph
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Naah. We're wittier. And more handsome. With Trek references.
kakkattekoi
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skilled wc practitioner?
many wc practitioners commented on these two fights after the show was aired
most comments were he is not as skilled as he claim to be and he only have one move which is neck grab
dudewingchun
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Are there any videos of his San da fights ?
The video of him vsing the Muay Chaiya guy was what I expected.. Which is what most wing chun guys look like. It was better then most on youtube atm though.
Zeny
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Danny, ok fine, he is not a god. What about you list down your own achievements and let us have a look?
Kakka, thanks for linking that video, haven't seen it before. Some fights you win, some fights you lose. However bear in mind as head coach of PVT he is not afraid to put his reputation on the line and use his wc to spar on TV. And when he lost he took it with humility.
Kakka, thanks for linking that video, haven't seen it before. Some fights you win, some fights you lose. However bear in mind as head coach of PVT he is not afraid to put his reputation on the line and use his wc to spar on TV. And when he lost he took it with humility.
kakkattekoi
Orange Belt
Personally I enjoyed the show
For me, there is always things to learn when watching these sparring
MMA is > than Wing Chun because MMA could potentially include wing chun. WC is a style MMA is not a style per se although a common but changing formula for success has been established. MMA is jkd applied to sport context, what works and gets results is what is respected. When wing chun training starts giving fighters an edge on the competition we'll see it get more mainstream respect until that day it's gonna have it's critics.
Wing Chun is a Southern style, typically more oriented to upper body techniques with low kicks. Wing chun is also a branch of Crane style, as are most styles of karate. Sokon Matsumura once commented that karate worked well against someone who doesn't know how to fight. I would suspect that could also be true of Wing Chun.
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While White Crane was likely one of Wing Chun's "roots" back in the day, I don't think I would say that "Wing Chun is a branch of Crane style." That's kind of like saying that the Southern Baptist Church is a branch of the Catholic Church. It may have its roots back in history in the Catholic Church, but saying its a "branch" implies a closer relationship than what actually exists! ;-)
That's one popular theory... many believe that the Wing Chun we know that emerged in 19th Century Fo'shan was, in part descended from Fukien Wing Chun White Crane (Youngchun Bai He) maybe a century or so earlier.
Zeny
Blue Belt
Personally i think we are moving into fiction territory (ng mui etc) when we say wc is derived from white crane.
Wc's primary attack, the sun punch, is not emphasized at all in white crane.
Would anyone like to point out similarities between wc and white crane?
Otherwise don't believe everything you read on the internet.
At least karate can somewhat trace its roots in white crane, as it has a form by the same name (san zhan or three battles) as the form in white crane, and acknowledges the white crane master (xie zhong xian) as having taught the japanese dude who then returned to japan to start the karate system.
Wc's primary attack, the sun punch, is not emphasized at all in white crane.
Would anyone like to point out similarities between wc and white crane?
Otherwise don't believe everything you read on the internet.
At least karate can somewhat trace its roots in white crane, as it has a form by the same name (san zhan or three battles) as the form in white crane, and acknowledges the white crane master (xie zhong xian) as having taught the japanese dude who then returned to japan to start the karate system.
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The list of qualifications don't say anything about becoming a champion or winning anything. It only says "participated" and "gained recognition", whatever that means. In any case, I've not been able to find any record of it. Do you happen to know where they can be found?
Zeny
Blue Belt
LFJ,
I saw it mentioned here, but of course I'm in no position to confirm the truth of it:
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Perhaps a more reliable source of information can be found here:
http://hkie.rotary3450.org/Newsletter/2013-2014/Tung Feng 16 2013-10-30.pdf
I saw it mentioned here, but of course I'm in no position to confirm the truth of it:
Biography : Cranes Production, - Exquisite Martial Arts Products
Perhaps a more reliable source of information can be found here:
http://hkie.rotary3450.org/Newsletter/2013-2014/Tung Feng 16 2013-10-30.pdf
The old legends and stories often have a kernel of truth to them. Wing Chun legend says that Ng Mui developed Wing Chun after seeing a fight between a Snake and a Crane. The legend says Ng Mui lived at the White Crane temple, and some stories say that her art prior to developing Wing Chun was White Crane. There is even a White Crane system called Fukien Weng Chun Bak Hok......Fukien Weng Chun White Crane. But this is a topic for another thread.
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