Wing Chun Punch (foundational vs boundary)

[DaveB]

Ehh, it's very possible we just move differently. Im very long(80 in reach), and like to keep people at the end of my strikes. When I am in the pocket my head is usually low and in your chest, or on your shoulder in a over under or double under. Entangling arms from a square position at that range just isn't something I have been able to make work.

In full sparring it's less about entangling and more about bridging (if my chun terminology is correct).

Say you pull up a boxing style cover to block a punch, as his hand retracts chi sau for me is what let's my blocking hand follow his punching hand back, either hitting or trapping his retracted arm....
Or
Off the same block I roll my hand over to pull his extended punching arm as I counter strike over the top.

I can do the reverse off my strikes if he blocks me, turning the impact into a trap/clear to land more shots.

I use the skill to take myself from defending to attacking OR to keep the pressure on.

I think people get caught up in the endless trapping battles you get in training.

Each strike I am able to make as a result of sticking to him, should imo be the start of a striking combo/barrage with more trapping only necessary if you reach a natural end to your attack or he interrupts you and you need to regain initiative.

 

[MxcnPhoenix]

Say you pull up a boxing style cover to block a punch, as his hand retracts chi sau for me is what let's my blocking hand follow his punching hand back, either hitting or trapping his retracted arm....
Or
Off the same block I roll my hand over to pull his extended punching arm as I counter strike over the top.

That's basically how I was taught the application of Chi Sau training works. When the opponent strikes you invite them in (via block or parry) establish a bridge (if you haven't already) and then escort them back out again (with a counter strike) as they retract to reset for their next strike or re-establish their guard. The application was similar in free sparring too.

 

[Martial D]

That's basically how I was taught the application of Chi Sau training works. When the opponent strikes you invite them in (via block or parry) establish a bridge (if you haven't already) and then escort them back out again (with a counter strike) as they retract to reset for their next strike or re-establish their guard. The application was similar in free sparring too.

Yes, that's the traditional strategy. I've found that distance isn't predictable enough to really make that work though. The fact that the transition to grappling can happen at any point complicates things even further.