Bullsherdog
Orange Belt
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Since someone else asked last year why despite the British often seeing kicking as ungentlemanly and bashing Savate for being a kick based style (esp before boxing was added in in predecessor styles like Chausson)........ French wrestling was primarily Greco-Roman arm-based with no leg moves while various British wrestling like Catch make use of sweeps, trips, scissor legs, knee pins, leg takedowns, and tackling the legs are important trump cards..........
I wonder about another thing. The one sole reason attributed to why Savate is now an underground style even in its native France is because World War 1 killed so many practitioners esp the highest levels of instructors and even many more were permanently too physically injured to continue practising. Just a noteworthy amount of those who existed the war fully intact were suffering from dysfunctional PTSD.
And in turn so many local stylists like Italian fencers across Europe were also killed fighting in the trenches. Hell I even discovered there was early HEMA attempts and other reconstruction of pre-Napoleonic weapon arts in the early 19th century! But plenty of people in the project lost their lives in the Great War too and not much interest remained in investing these reconstruction because of how damaged European economies were from World War 1 that interest faded away.
So I wonder why Boxing never faced the risk and in fact became the dominant fighting sport in addition to being the last styles of old lineages to last today under widespread teaching along with wrestling, military knife, and bayonet?
Boxing survived so widespread that the Nazis were drilling soldiers in it and made it requirement in special private schools and to this day the British military still has boxing gyms and clubs in every military base. Even in France, boxing survived unlike Savate. Practically every European nation has widespread boxing instructors even in isolated rural places.
Why hasn't the World Wars threatened its survival? At least wrestling can make the argument of being standard in military, most armed forces between the World Wars did not drill soldiers in the Sweet Science. So I ask!
Esp since boxing became so popular every country in the world outside of Europe and America has boxing gyms and boxing actually gets higher viewership on TV than competition of local styles like Sanda, TKD, Judo, and Wushu in parts of Asia esp Japan despite the stereotypical association of martial arts and East Asia!
I wonder about another thing. The one sole reason attributed to why Savate is now an underground style even in its native France is because World War 1 killed so many practitioners esp the highest levels of instructors and even many more were permanently too physically injured to continue practising. Just a noteworthy amount of those who existed the war fully intact were suffering from dysfunctional PTSD.
And in turn so many local stylists like Italian fencers across Europe were also killed fighting in the trenches. Hell I even discovered there was early HEMA attempts and other reconstruction of pre-Napoleonic weapon arts in the early 19th century! But plenty of people in the project lost their lives in the Great War too and not much interest remained in investing these reconstruction because of how damaged European economies were from World War 1 that interest faded away.
So I wonder why Boxing never faced the risk and in fact became the dominant fighting sport in addition to being the last styles of old lineages to last today under widespread teaching along with wrestling, military knife, and bayonet?
Boxing survived so widespread that the Nazis were drilling soldiers in it and made it requirement in special private schools and to this day the British military still has boxing gyms and clubs in every military base. Even in France, boxing survived unlike Savate. Practically every European nation has widespread boxing instructors even in isolated rural places.
Why hasn't the World Wars threatened its survival? At least wrestling can make the argument of being standard in military, most armed forces between the World Wars did not drill soldiers in the Sweet Science. So I ask!
Esp since boxing became so popular every country in the world outside of Europe and America has boxing gyms and boxing actually gets higher viewership on TV than competition of local styles like Sanda, TKD, Judo, and Wushu in parts of Asia esp Japan despite the stereotypical association of martial arts and East Asia!
