Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
Maybe you should just say, change is sometimes good.May be I should say. "Change that will last is always good."
Both IBM 5520 Administrative System and IBM Displaywriter system were good. But it didn't last long.
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Maybe you should just say, change is sometimes good.May be I should say. "Change that will last is always good."
Both IBM 5520 Administrative System and IBM Displaywriter system were good. But it didn't last long.
Why not? Windows was developed as an overlay for MS-DOS systems. It wasn't intended to be an OS, but an Operating Environment. So your putative DOS user would be correct.There are
- DOS creator (those who creates a form).
- DOS users (those who trains the original form).
- WINDOW creator (those who changes a form).
- WINDOW users (those who trains the changed form).
A DOS user should not say that the WINDOW users use the "not pure OS".
Change is sometimes good. Certainly not always. Far from it.Daisy wheel printer was the best printer until the inkjet printer came out. Change is always good.
If the basics of the system are followed, and, more importantly understood, other than the common changes, the kata/hyung/form should stay faithful to its' core concept. Physical changes will happen for many reasons, such as body type, and even where you train. If the core concepts remain then I don't feel there is any harm done.No argument in this at all. Perfectly reasonable. But such personal changes to your form should not become the standard of the style to pass on to others.
If the change is better than the original, there is no reason to keep the original.But such personal changes to your form should not become the standard of the style to pass on to others.
I see this from multiple perspectives. From a perspective of experience, I can see value in playing around with forms. With experience, we can discover what works best/better, at least for ourselves. This can and should only come after a person is fully immersed and experienced in the form. This takes time; much of it to remove any preconceived bias a person may have, regardless of where this comes from.I’ve made my feelings pretty clear about this issue, I think potentially anyone can make changes, but probably most people simply should not.
But that being said, I also kind of feel like a form is something that someone else created, so on a simple level, why change it? Feel free to make your own, but why change someone’s work? I can read The Lord of the Rings over and over, but if I wanted to try my hand at high fantasy authorship, I wouldn’t revise that work. I would write my own. I have no business changing someone else’s work, even if I think I can make the story better. It is what it is, and it simply is not my story to change.
Maybe there is a parallel here…
I think a more accurate writing analogy might be editing rather than revising.I’ve made my feelings pretty clear about this issue, I think potentially anyone can make changes, but probably most people simply should not.
But that being said, I also kind of feel like a form is something that someone else created, so on a simple level, why change it? Feel free to make your own, but why change someone’s work? I can read The Lord of the Rings over and over, but if I wanted to try my hand at high fantasy authorship, I wouldn’t revise that work. I would write my own. I have no business changing someone else’s work, even if I think I can make the story better. It is what it is, and it simply is not my story to change.
Maybe there is a parallel here…
I would view it as a teaching curriculum, as a new teacher you may adopt (or be given) a methodology that you like but as you become more experienced you may find different ways of teaching that particular methodology that work better for you. After 20 years of teaching do you rip up that tweaked model and start over? I assume that is why Goju-Ryu and Isshin-Ryu have two different versions of Seiunchin. A more extreme example is where Isshin-Ryu teaches Seisan as one of the first kata taught and Goju as an advanced kata.I’ve made my feelings pretty clear about this issue, I think potentially anyone can make changes, but probably most people simply should not.
But that being said, I also kind of feel like a form is something that someone else created, so on a simple level, why change it? Feel free to make your own, but why change someone’s work? I can read The Lord of the Rings over and over, but if I wanted to try my hand at high fantasy authorship, I wouldn’t revise that work. I would write my own. I have no business changing someone else’s work, even if I think I can make the story better. It is what it is, and it simply is not my story to change.
Maybe there is a parallel here…
Could be, but the point is, it’s a finished work. I wouldn’t try to alter it. On another level, I can orally tell the story of the Lord of the Rings to my son, reciting from memory. I will definitely not remember every part of it, every scene, every bit of dialog. But I can remember the overall story and I can convey it to him, so now he knows the story, even if abridged. That does not change the story in the sense of making it a different story. It is just abridged. So to the question of How much change to a kata before it is something else entirely? Well, I think there can be a lot of room for that.I think a more accurate writing analogy might be editing rather than revising.
If the point is that there are SOME folks who shouldn't... sure. In the hands of an incompetent, you may have significant harm done, such as with Potato Jesus. I would guess that we all agree that some folks shouldn't mess around.If you don't understand a kata and you change it, you cannot say no harm done. You have no idea.
If you claim to understand a kata, you probably don't. Refer to the sentence above.
An "improved" kata...View attachment 27893
This is exactly what happens, and there is not one thing anyone can do about it. When you learn something... anything... from one person, and then turn around and teach it to another person, it will be different. Maybe not very different, but different nonetheless. Could be one or two little things that you don't even realize you do differently.Could be, but the point is, it’s a finished work. I wouldn’t try to alter it. On another level, I can orally tell the story of the Lord of the Rings to my son, reciting from memory. I will definitely not remember every part of it, every scene, every bit of dialog. But I can remember the overall story and I can convey it to him, so now he knows the story, even if abridged. That does not change the story in the sense of making it a different story. It is just abridged. So to the question of How much change to a kata before it is something else entirely? Well, I think there can be a lot of room for that.
A: Dear master! Why did you change the jumping kick into a jumping knee strike?"This is what it was, but from now on, this is what it is."
Well said.If you don't understand a kata and you change it, you cannot say no harm done. You have no idea.
If you claim to understand a kata, you probably don't. Refer to the sentence above.
An "improved" kata...View attachment 27893
Abridged = accurate? I cannot agree with that. It would have to be a very, very short story. Something like the Lord of the Rings would be ripe for all kinds of interpretation.Could be, but the point is, it’s a finished work. I wouldn’t try to alter it. On another level, I can orally tell the story of the Lord of the Rings to my son, reciting from memory. I will definitely not remember every part of it, every scene, every bit of dialog. But I can remember the overall story and I can convey it to him, so now he knows the story, even if abridged. That does not change the story in the sense of making it a different story. It is just abridged. So to the question of How much change to a kata before it is something else entirely? Well, I think there can be a lot of room for that.
The ending of the "Chinese one arm sword man against the Japanese blind sword man" was the Chinese one arm sword man killed the Japanese blind sword man. When that movie was shown in Japan, they had to change the ending as the blind Japanese sword man killed the Chinese one arm sword man.but the point is, it’s a finished work. I wouldn’t try to alter it.