miguksaram
Master of Arts
At the very least bring flowers and chocolates Mr. Stalker.
What age do you stop sparring?
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miguksaram
Master of Arts
Well going along lines with the "one strike one kill" the points at karate tournaments would only be scored if they would merit that type of "one strike one kill" technique. I.E. - Clean strong techniques with proper intent. I believe this still holds true for JKA tournaments. However, sadly enough, the NASKA and sport martial art tournaments seem to slide away from that. Now any crap shot to a legal target will score.
Because the karate pioneers in Japan were trying to infuse the Japanese bushido spirit and culture into Okinawan toudejutsu when converting karate into a competition activity. The one strike one kill concept was for tournament competition, where one clean blow would be decisive, just like if the contest were with live swords. But like so many other things in karate and the martial arts, that concept was misconstrued into a "self defense" philosophy by those who consider themselves "traditionalists", hence the secret death blow mentality and the subsequent deer in the headlights reaction when the secret death blow doesn't work.
I would imagine it could be. Personally, I'm not sure if I'd want victory or defeat to be determined by a single strike. Lots of pressure.
Forget...as any good Dim Mak "master" will tell you...."My techniques are too deadly for the ring."
I guess if there's ever a fighter whose opponents all start mysteriously dropping dead then we know what's up. . .
At least with a finish there is no question as to who the real winner is. That is, unless it's a TKO where the ref jumps in too early, and that causes all sorts of consternation.
Personally, I don't mind a good decision as long as the fight is exciting. There have been a few legendary fights that have gone the distance, like Henderson/Shogun just recently.
Personally, I don't mind a good decision as long as the fight is exciting. There have been a few legendary fights that have gone the distance, like Henderson/Shogun just recently.
RobinTKD
Blue Belt
I know it's a couple of pages ago now, but i haven't been able to get to a computer for the last few days, but in respect to knee kicks, it depend what part of the knee you strike, and what you strike with. I think you'd be more likely to take the knee out with a roundhouse using the ball of the foot to the side of the knee than a side kick to the front. A sidekick to the front will only bend that knee backwards if the leg is already completely straight, which isn't a natural stance for most people, that's why I'd go for the side/roundhouse.
Cyriacus
Senior Master
Are You hitting directly horizontal? If so, thats why
Off topic I'm sure but I'm about 90% convinced that Skip makes a cameo in Forrest Griffin's book "Got Fight?" when Forrest talked about reffing in Alabama. Guy around that age named Skip fighting in Alabama, almost has to be him I would think.
Sorry for derailing
Off topic I'm sure but I'm about 90% convinced that Skip makes a cameo in Forrest Griffin's book "Got Fight?" when Forrest talked about reffing in Alabama. Guy around that age named Skip fighting in Alabama, almost has to be him I would think.
Sorry for derailing
Skip does live in Alabama, though the last email I had he was working away somewhere sandy as a security consultant. I think he's a good example of the 'keep going' thing, that you only really lose your edge when you stop doing things or slow down. If you keep at what you are doing (within reason I guess!) you can keep going! I watched the Windsor (by the castle) triathlon the other night and a 75 year old year was doing it, got a good time too. He looked young than his age something else I think keeping going physically does for you so I don't honestly think you ever have to give up sparring!
At our dojang we spar 10-20 minutes at the end of each class, I mean really each class, no exceptions. Sparring starts with day one of training - it's always full contact and there is no difference whether you are young or old. And yes, we have 50 and 60 year olds who would spar you on a regular basis and some of them (especially former professional fighters) are much way better than any kids who started in their 20s. I mean I still can't understand how people in their late 50s or early 60s can have such flexibility and do head kicks, flying kicks etc. Our master instructor had an ad for the intra-school competitions "all ages (4-100) are encouraged to compete".
mastercole
Master Black Belt
That is interesting, young 20 something athletes are permitted to strike with full force against 60 year old practitioners, breaking ribs and concussion knockouts. amazing, first I ever heard of that. How often are the elders injured?
I like that. It's very frustrating to be involved with a school where you have to train for six months before they actually let you throw a punch at someone.
Well she did say that some are former pro fighters who frequently school the young bucks. . . I hope that when I'm 50 I won't be so fragile as to be scared to spar someone younger.
Hmm, what's the difinition of full force? I mean we wear protective vests all the time and people get kicked hard - you do not tap the vest. I tried to kick lightly at the beginning (like when I was a white and yellow belt) but was immediately ordered to kick harder because of two reasons: 1) in competitions you will not get scored for such a kick and 2) in real fighting situation this kick will not cause any damage. Maybe it's not full force, you are right, maybe 50% of force, but you feel the kick. Kicks to the head -we are advised on 30% of full force in order not to knock the person out. Regarding injuries - well, no idea. I have been training for about 10 months - nobody was injured except of younger guys - mostly when they hit each other accidently in the face, like breaking lips or hitting jaws. Regarding 50-60 year olds - my guess is that many of these people are doing tkd for years - not starting at the age of 60. My perception is that they are not injured often - younger people are injured way more often.
ralphmcpherson
Senior Master
My instructor is 50 and I would not to spar him, he would tear me apart. We also have a 6th dan who is 60 in my class and he goes really hard and gives the younger guys a really good run. I certainly dont regard 50/60 year olds as fragile. The older guys are just better at conserving energy and kick and punch real hard so if they hit you, you stay hit.
