You disagree with this, Rat? So you think someone who has never trained at all is going to have as much knowledge as someone who has trained? I think that tells us something important.
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I dont see how that translates to what i wrote and the follow up with Gpseymour. And that is also conjecture my good man.
Not really. We know you don't train, you've admitted as much. Which speaks to your credibility when you express an opinion. I've never trained as a pilot. So if I were to offer an opinion on things relating to flying, there's a good chance I'd say something stupid. And certainly anyone taking my advice would be a fool.
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I was writing the rebutal to it for why i "disagree" with it. You jumped the gun. (to which now i ironically did while replying to that one)
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Yes it is. I have stated (and evidence backs me up if anyone can be bothered to track back) I used to do X style (not important which), havent done in it in a peroid of time and have slowly started getting back into doing Y style. Cherry picking my posts either unintetionally or intentially doesnt help this.
We do have one agreement, if you baslessly take somones advice you are indeed a fool. Let alone if you have zero rapport or a means to hold them accountable if they conned you.
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Headhunter
Senior Master
Hey don’t say that,.,.hes a black belt in YouTube and google....but yes agreed rat trying to talk to us about martial arts is like me trying to tell Neil Armstrong about what going to space is like
Headhunter
Senior Master
Some things in MA schools aren’t about fighting.
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Fair enough. If you are new the place not being open about what style is done doesnt help anything. Like you might get all exicted about doing grappling because you thought it was the karate that is mixed with JJ and find out its just a kickboxing one. Its usually just a lapse in design of website, like they forgot to put it on or something though.
jobo
Grandmaster
well clearly not, but then my guitar playing has very little to do with music,,but a dissertation on introspective issues isnt about anything at all but writing,
assuming there are no wrong answers, and totally bizarre if there is a right answer. that requires you not to actually espressos your feeling accurately
and what gives them the right to require you to reveal your emotions to them ?
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Headhunter
Senior Master
Based on what evidence that it’s a lapse in design?....
from my experience people who do that genuine about it. Like a karate style could have lots of bjj and wrestling in it but call it karate. That’s because the instructor is a karate guy mostly but has cross trained bjj and wrestling and put those into his own style and since the majority of his stuff is still karate he just calls it karate
Steve
Mostly Harmless
I feel you. My first experience with martial arts was a situation very similar to this. My instructor was clearly skilled, but he was cagey about what he trained and where. Can't know for sure what your situation is, but I think it's safe to say that you have to be able to trust your instructor. If your gut tells you something is shifty, that nagging feeling won't go away. Over the course of about a year, I learned enough to figure out what I liked and didn't like and ended up going to a different school in a different style. Bottom line is that in an industry like Martial Arts, where there are no external, objective certifications or standards, a lack of transparency is concerning.
As others have said, I think you need to ask some questions. You don't have to be accusatory. Just be curious. "Hey, I was looking on the internet, and turns out there are a LOT of styles of karate. What exactly are we learning? When you trained TKD, was it WTF? Did you compete?" To be clear, I'm not recommending you interrogate the guy. But there is nothing wrong with curiosity and interest. And if he is cagey and evasive, that's a red flag.
Is he awarding rank in a martial art? If so, which style? I mean, he might be awarding rank in his own style that he invented, which is often a red flag. However, it's just as likely that he is perfectly competent to award rank in Karate and/or TKD. So, you might be learning a bit of both, but are earning rank in one or the other.
Are you proud to tell people where you train or what you're learning? Would you recommend your school to a friend without reservation? Because you should.
You’re still assuming they go in with a notion of what it is, but are wrong. Most folks either have no notion (they just like the idea of training MA), or are looking for some specific concept (grappling, ground work, self-defense orientation) and watch classes looking for that thing. A small number are looking for a specific art (whether they really know what it is or not), and they’ll usually ask about that pretty quickly.
Here's my attorney. He'll have my people call your people.
(Quick, somebody get me some people!)
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Yeah. If the style is for example Cobra Kai. It is not that clear an indication of what that style actually is.
And if you wanted to super nerd it out there is debate on what style that was.
What style of karate is Cobra Kai karate based on in the original Karate Kid movie? - Quora
Steve
Mostly Harmless
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that the vast majority of adults who get into martial arts fall into one of two categories. They either trained as a child and are getting back into it, or they enroll their child in class and are roped into training as a family thing.
I think you're probably right that most folks don't have any idea what they're looking for.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Well, we know that they compete, and that it's very effective "on the street" and against any style... except for that one move that, if done correctly, no can defend.
Yokozuna514
2nd Black Belt
The other obvious reason the OP may not know the style of MA he is doing is because he is training in an MMA gym where they teach many different styles or a blend of styles. There is a gym near me that teaches some form of 'street' karate. They also have classes in kickboxing, BJJ, boxing and wrestling. The gym has a ring and a cage as well as a tatami all under one roof. The only 'brand name' MA they promote is 10th Planet. Everything else is pretty generic.
People enjoy going there and it caters to people wanting to learn MMA for the most part but you can also join the gym to take specific classes.
Getting back to the karate they teach, I have had friends go there that have done Kyokushin and they say it is NOT what would resemble any traditional karate training. Yes, you wear a dogi and there are belts in the system but that is pretty much where the resemblance to karate ends. I believe the karate is aimed at kids and women who want to learn self-defence. When asked what style of karate it is, the answer is a form of 'street' karate that is an improvement to the traditional systems out there.
People enjoy going there and it caters to people wanting to learn MMA for the most part but you can also join the gym to take specific classes.
Getting back to the karate they teach, I have had friends go there that have done Kyokushin and they say it is NOT what would resemble any traditional karate training. Yes, you wear a dogi and there are belts in the system but that is pretty much where the resemblance to karate ends. I believe the karate is aimed at kids and women who want to learn self-defence. When asked what style of karate it is, the answer is a form of 'street' karate that is an improvement to the traditional systems out there.
