MJS, I don't have any problem with your thread or the articles you listed. Since the watch guy claimed self-defense, I wanted to know what the background on the teenager was. Some here on the thread questioned my motives. The articles did not deal with any background on the kid other than what the parents said, and as you have pointed out, and I have seen over my lifetime, what parents say about their children isn't always how those kids actually are.
I posted this thread to show that this killer in France, who murdered children, was said to have been an apparently nice guy by his neighbors...
which makes my point in my original question.
I am not in Law enforcement but I have friends and family at both ends of the LE spectrum, the catching and keeping of criminals and I hear the stories. One of my instructors was a police officer who was responding to multiple 911 calls for fires. The calls were intentional false alarms and the caller was a kid. This was back when stores actually had pay phones. My instructor/police officer, went to the store location where the calls were being made from and hid where he could see the phone bank. Sure enough, a kid went to the phones and made a call. My friend called his station to see if a 911 call had just gone out, they reported back that it had and the location was the same phone bank. Well, my friend took the kid into custody and took him to where his mother was in the store and started talking to them. As he is doing this, the kid was crying and an old lady, not involved in the event, walks up and tells the mother to not let the mean police officer bully her child. She had no idea what had led up to the event, and just assumed my friend was in the wrong. The kid had put the lives of people at risk, the fire men responding to the false alarms, and the people on the roads they drove down responding to the false alarms. So, I know these stories of "my son never did anything wrong, and is a good boy," and before they destroy this neighborhood watch guy, it would be nice to know what actually happened.
Another story. My brother is a LEO in a nearby town. His first day on the job he was involved in a foot pursuit of a suspect, and chased this guy to a house. The guy goes in. My brother gets to the door to go in, and someone, not the suspect, pushes the door closed on him. My brother radioed his training officer, who was just getting to the house and they knock and demand to be let in. Once in there were 3 or 4 people in the living room. My brother and his T.O. ask them where the guy is. All of them say, "the guy isn't here." Since my brother followed him to the door, he tells them that if they don't tell where the guy is, some of them are going to jail too. He then said, where is he, and all 4 of them pointed to the ceiling, meaning he was upstairs.
The friends and family of victims and perpetrators are not always reliable when it comes to these cases. Add in the race element and it gets worse. Add in the race machine, Al "tawana Brawley" sharpton, who is on his way to Florida as we speak, and the situation becomes even worse.
Like I said I'm primarily looking to discuss the shooting, but no doubt, the race of the parties involved will come into play. I don't know the answer to this, so I'm going to ask: I assume that private security, neighborhood watch groups, etc, have some sort of policy that they have to follow. I mean, I'd find it hard to believe that the local PD would say to the watch patrol, "Sure, if you see something suspicious, go ahead, initiate a stop, question the person, detain them, whatever you have to do." No, instead, I'd wager a strong guess that they're advised to observe, gather info, and call the police. Like I said, they're not cops, despite their apparent want to be one..lol. 
