Grey Eyed Bandit
Master of Arts
So what about what Nakadai's doing?
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DWeidman said:PS> I still agree with the reason for starting this thread - in that the UFC isn't the "proving grounds" for real budo...
Nimravus said:So what about what Nakadai's doing?
bencole said:You tell me what you think he is doing....
teisatsu said:However, most people will fight how they train. I know it sounds cliche but, it's true.
teisatsu said:Randori exercises are not MMA sparring/competition.
Nimravus said:No, it's not. The only thing I'm afraid of is being kicked out of the dojo due to having seriously injured someone who decided to up the ante without a warning, no matter how much that person may deserve it.
Nimravus said:So what? I trust you're not implying that all MMA people spar the same way all the time??
teisatsu said:Are you concerned about having to wipe out someone you're training with to protect yourself? If so, train somewhere else. You're in danger.
teisatsu said:Or, are you concerned that you have so little control and skill that you will injure your training partner if he does something unscripted?
teisatsu said:Or, are you concerned that you will not be allowed to train if you have to use your training to protect yourself outside the dojo?
teisatsu said:Maybe not. However, in my experience, MMA people tend to prepare for their anticipated competitive environment and stick to principles that work for that situation. Randori is not confined by those rules. Yes it is a controlled situation but is controlled more in terms of speed and degree of response than by technique or rules restrictions. It's easier to increase speed in a real situation than it is to change conditioned response.
Nimravus said:However, Ben never said anything about "MMA type sparring" specifically, he only wrote "sparring", period.
teisatsu said:Partially true. By making the UFC and MMA a part of the title, the implication (intended or otherwise) is that we are discussing MMA sparring. Additionally, you asked me if I thought MMA people sparred the same way all the time. My direct response was to your direct question.
teisatsu said:Maybe not. However, in my experience, MMA people tend to prepare for their anticipated competitive environment and stick to principles that work for that situation. Randori is not confined by those rules. Yes it is a controlled situation but is controlled more in terms of speed and degree of response than by technique or rules restrictions. It's easier to increase speed in a real situation than it is to change conditioned response.
teisatsu said:Maybe not. However, in my experience, MMA people tend to prepare for their anticipated competitive environment and stick to principles that work for that situation. Randori is not confined by those rules. Yes it is a controlled situation but is controlled more in terms of speed and degree of response than by technique or rules restrictions. It's easier to increase speed in a real situation than it is to change conditioned response.
Nimravus said:Let's try to clear out what distinguishes "randori" from "sparring" then, aiight?
Nimravus said:Let's try to clear out what distinguishes "randori" from "sparring" then, aiight?
teisatsu said:In my experience, MMA enthusiasts spar to build the skills they anticipate needing in the ring. Those skills are focused by the existance of rules... Because it is senseless to train to avoid something that won't happen becuase there is a referee, with rulebook in hand to call foul and stop the action if/when it does.