Tyson vs Paul

[Hot Lunch]

I’ll tell you one thing, if this was twenty five years ago I’m pretty confident a thirty two year old Mike Tyson would have beaten a two year old Jake Paul.

And he'd dare anyone to do something about it!

 

[MuayJitsu]

I had a more altruistic view that jake chose not to murder Tyson in front of a million people.

Yeah it was very clear he was holding back….anyone upset about it post fight needs ti get in reality….what did they think was going to happen Tyson is 58 with years of drug and alcohol abuse and spent years and years not training there was 0 chance he was knocking anyone out and Jake Paul isn’t going to go and try and kill an old man. I’m no fan of the guy but his antics are all for publicity. If people got scammed into paying for the fight that’s their fault

 

[drop bear]

Why would he try to intentionally hurt his business partner? Tyson was making one million, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per minute. Paul exactly twice that.

Guaranteed money regardless of outcome.

They should have walked to the ring together.
The old Judy Collin’s song should have been playing. We could have all been singing along.

“Don’t you love farce?
My fault I fear
I thought that’d you want what I want
Sorry, my dear!
But where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns
Don’t bother, they’re here.

And yet, I fell for it again.

 

[Sammy Naur]

The fight definitely wasn't fixed.

 

[Sammy Naur]

I think the fight was exactly what people should have known it would be. A has-been facing a never-was. Lots of hype, not much substance.

Jake Paul is a good boxer,getting better with every fight.

Mike Tyson is a legend and held his own.

 

[Sammy Naur]

I had a more altruistic view that jake chose not to murder Tyson in front of a million people.

Jake couldn't murder Tyson, he was barely breathing by the end of 8x2 minute rounds.

He stayed outside Tyson's reach almost the entire fight.

He was too scared to stay in the clutch after round 1.

Nobody noticed the lack of clinching after the first 2 minutes? Paul wouldn't do that again he stayed at range. Talk about murder, Jake Paul would be a dead man if he'd stayed inside the swarm range.

 

[Sammy Naur]

That's fanboy talk.

Yes, we all know that Paul wouldn't have beaten a prime Tyson. Paul never said he could. But he was good enough to get those results with a 58 year old Tyson, when 99% of the rest of the world would've gotten slaughtered.

Paul definitely said that he could. That's what he does, talk smack.

Paul was taunting Tyson up to the weigh in, and only backed off literally the minute the fight was over, after he realized he'd barely won a decision over a 58 year old heavyweight champion.

 

[drop bear]

Tyson was not in good shape.

I’m grateful for last night. No regrets to get in ring one last time. I almost died in June. Had 8 blood transfusions. Lost half my blood and 25lbs in hospital and had to fight to get healthy to fight so I won. To have my children see me stand toe to toe and finish 8 rounds with a talented fighter half my age in front of a packed Dallas Cowboys stadium is an experience that no man has the right to ask for. Thank you.”

 

[Hot Lunch]

Paul definitely said that he could.

Please post a link to the quote.

 

[Gyakuto]

For whatever reason, it was a disappointing fight. My friend said he would not watch it because he wanted to remember Tyson from his heyday. I reminded him he avoided seeing Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd with me for the same reasons. He was wrong about Zep and The Floyd, he was right about this Tyson fight!

Anyway, taking on Tyson looks great on Paul’s CV (resume), taking on Jake Paul doesn’t look so good on Tyson’s.

 

[Fungus]

I watched the fight on netflix as it was over, so i fwd and skipped watching the other fights.

He stayed outside Tyson's reach almost the entire fight.

Yes, and none of the fighters seem to make any powerful attacks.. but there are different explanations, not sure which one it was?

1a) Paul has having respect for Tysons close range striks, and didn't want to take the risk of getting knocked while trying to attack? Beeing knocked out by an even old Tyson would probably have looked bad in his CV. So playing safe? After all Pauls guard was a bit all over. So had Tyson gotten close more often it may have been risky.

or

1b) Paul think he could have charged harder and knocked Tyson, but didn't want to damage him more than necessary, if his money was secured anyway?

I suppose both are in theory possible.

As for Tyson

2) Why Tyson didn't charge in as much, could perhaps be explained by age, and as i read he have a history of sciatica (similar to my issue), and given that some knee issue, then a more defensive (waiting for a chance to counter) may be more conservative on your resources than than charging attacks yourself on a younger opponent with presumably superior cardiofitness.

Compare to other boxing fights (but I don't watch alot of boxing) both was very defensive, and there was not as much energy in the fight. Perhaps that is also because their money was safe without need to win.

 

[Sammy Naur]

Please post a link to the quote.

It was all Paul talked about for over a year. They were both trading jabs at each other.

Paul is a straight up smack talker with everyone he fights. He's a massive narcissist.

 

[Hot Lunch]

It was all Paul talked about for over a year. They were both trading jabs at each other.

Paul is a straight up smack talker with everyone he fights. He's a massive narcissist.

In other words, Paul never said that. Got it.

 

[Hot Lunch]

Jake couldn't murder Tyson, he was barely breathing by the end of 8x2 minute rounds.

He stayed outside Tyson's reach almost the entire fight.

He was too scared to stay in the clutch after round 1.

Nobody noticed the lack of clinching after the first 2 minutes? Paul wouldn't do that again he stayed at range. Talk about murder, Jake Paul would be a dead man if he'd stayed inside the swarm range.

Yeah, and? The goal is to hit without getting hit. That's boxing. Damn.

 

[Sammy Naur]

I watched the fight on netflix as it was over, so i fwd and skipped watching the other fights.

Yes, and none of the fighters seem to make any powerful attacks.. but there are different explanations, not sure which one it was?

1a) Paul has having respect for Tysons close range striks, and didn't want to take the risk of getting knocked while trying to attack? Beeing knocked out by an even old Tyson would probably have looked bad in his CV. So playing safe? After all Pauls guard was a bit all over. So had Tyson gotten close more often it may have been risky.

or

1b) Paul think he could have charged harder and knocked Tyson, but didn't want to damage him more than necessary, if his money was secured anyway?

I suppose both are in theory possible.

As for Tyson

2) Why Tyson didn't charge in as much, could perhaps be explained by age, and as i read he have a history of sciatica (similar to my issue), and given that some knee issue, then a more defensive (waiting for a chance to counter) may be more conservative on your resources than than charging attacks yourself on a younger opponent with presumably superior cardiofitness.

Compare to other boxing fights (but I don't watch alot of boxing) both was very defensive, and there was not as much energy in the fight. Perhaps that is also because their money was safe without need to win.

Paul's new post fight interview line is that he held back and "didn't want to hurt" Mike.

I think that's baloney and it's what I expected. Paul is a very passive aggressive person because he's deep down still a child, even with all that new muscle. End of day Mike is a swarmer and to beat a swarmer you stay out of the clinch range where he dominates. And since Mike is slower than he used to be, it's just a matter of running out the clock.

Floyd Mayweather Jr made his whole career about staying at long range with the Shell and earning points.

 

[Sammy Naur]

In other words, Paul never said that. Got it.

He did, and all sorts of other smack talk.

 

[Sammy Naur]

Yeah, and? The goal is to hit without getting hit. That's boxing. Damn.

Sarcasm, wow. Can we have an adult conversation?

 

[Hot Lunch]

He did, and all sorts of other smack talk.

Link or it didn't happen.

 

[Hot Lunch]

Sarcasm, wow. Can we have an adult conversation?

We already are. Once again, the goal is to hit without getting hit. If Tyson was as good in that fight as he was in 1988, then the tactics that you're attributing to Paul (which doesn't break any rules, by the way) wouldn't have saved him.