Tyson vs Paul

[HighKick]

MMA = Mixed Martial Arts right? It's not a system. It's a competition for Martial Artists. It is similar to Lei Tai which is a type of martial art competition open to all marital arts where they fight against each other. MMA is Martial Arts competition for martial artists.


Of course it does. This one you'll have to explain because to me that logic doesn't make sense.

MMA is an amalgamation of several MA's and non-MA's competition tools. A bastard child (no disrespect intended) that finds effective tools regardless of where they come from. Good? Bad? Everyone has their opinion.

Sure, there are commonalities from movements/techniques done centuries/decades ago. But refinement better be part of any persons training/learning or what they learn will soon be outdated. The hard part for TMA instructors with some people it to keep the valid parts of history relevant and connected to today's methods.
This puts even more responsibility on instructors to continue their training and stay relevant. Face it, this world is never going to stop changing.

 

[JowGaWolf]

MMA is an amalgamation of several MA's and non-MA's competition tools.

I don't even know what you are saying. What is a non-MA's competition tool? Or better yet. What do you think is a MA's competition tool?

A bastard child (no disrespect intended) that finds effective tools regardless of where they come from.

This is the definition of TMA. You can find "cross pollination" among different systems having the same techniques. Jow Ga Kung Fu is made of 3 different fighting systems. The founder took what he found useful from each system and combined them to make one system. This is the same thing MMA fighters do on an individual level. The only difference is that they aren't creating systems.

But refinement better be part of any persons training/learning or what they learn will soon be outdated.

People who train TMA application for use in the context of System A vs System B do not have any problems with this. When I train with BJJ practitioners I don't have any problems using any of my TMA techniques. In reality, I use 2 techniques. Taiji push hand for sensitivity and a Jow Ga technique called "wrap the mummy" I'm able to use that same Jow Ga technique against grapplers and boxers. This technique comes natural for me now and I look at ease when applying it. The people who have trouble with what you state are people who don't train application and people who don't train System A vs System B.

The hard part for TMA instructors with some people it to keep the valid parts of history relevant and connected to today's methods.

It's not difficult. Learn to apply the technique and then train System A vs System B. "Family doesn't fight family" as fact you will discover that your techniques are easier to pull off when it's "System A vs System B" You'll discover that that some techniques work really well against one system and not against another system. The Jow Ga technique Wrap the mummy works well against boxers and grapplers but not so good against Wing Chun. By training System A vs System B, I learn when to apply the technique and against whom. I learn the limitations of it and what types of things make it difficult to pull off.

The problem isn't the History of TMA, the problem is that too many people don't know how to use it and too many people don't care about learning how to apply it. There is nothing I had to modernize with Jow Ga in order to make it work. I think people who say that a technique needs to be modernized are those who don't understand how that particular technique works. People in this forum used wo wonder how I was able to hit people with my long fist techniques. Some thought it was too slow. Now you seem the same technique in MMA knocking people out. I understand why the technique works and I know what breaks the technique. The only reason I understand it because I trained to used it and I failed many times before I understood it.

 

[JowGaWolf]

MMA is an amalgamation of several MA's and non-MA's competition tools. A bastard child (no disrespect intended) that finds effective tools regardless of where they come from. Good? Bad? Everyone has their opinion.

Sure, there are commonalities from movements/techniques done centuries/decades ago. But refinement better be part of any persons training/learning or what they learn will soon be outdated. The hard part for TMA instructors with some people it to keep the valid parts of history relevant and connected to today's methods.
This puts even more responsibility on instructors to continue their training and stay relevant. Face it, this world is never going to stop changing.

If you train TMA techniques and do it in a way where you aren't trying to modernize it, then you will gain a lot of martial art knowledge just from that one experience. Train it and use it. Learn through the 20 or 30 failures on the 31st try it will click and you will understand. When people try to modernize a TMA technique, they often break the technique.

 

[Sammy Naur]

A leading behavioral analyst gives his conclusion at 37:06 to whether the Paul vs Tyson fight was staged.

Sorry but that guy is not a "leading" behavioral analyst, he Bedros "Spidey" Akkelian, and is a professional entertainer, mentalist, hypnotist, and magician. That is all pseudoscience. This would be like David Blaine or Chris Angel giving us their "expert" opinion on a boxing match.

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Marvin, I understand that you are suspicious of the fight, but these videos are really just fishing for clicks, and I don't think they support your theory that the fight was a work. It just didn't live up to the hype, imho, and these videos are designed to make money while feeding into your confirmation bias.

You can find videos just like this supporting Flat Earth, vaccine conspiracies, and school shootings being false flags.