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RyuShiKan
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It has probably been said at least 100 times on this BBs.......but here it goes again......"It's never the style but the person"
It has probably been said at least 100 times on this BBs.......but here it goes again......"It's never the style but the person"
That is exactly my point !!
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Kirk
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The things that just get my blood just boiling over about this all
are that 1) MMAers have a LOT more boards on the net than most
other arts. Yet they feel it necessary to come on every single
other martial arts board, and go on and on about how awesome
their style is, and dog on other ones etcetera, etcetera. 2) They
always bring it up .. yet act invisible when people bring legitimate
logic to the table. They just ignore it all together! But time and
time again, especially now in the gen m.a. forum of this site ...
they infest all threads with their rhetoric. I used to read every
new posting in Gen M.A. .... now I read very few.
are that 1) MMAers have a LOT more boards on the net than most
other arts. Yet they feel it necessary to come on every single
other martial arts board, and go on and on about how awesome
their style is, and dog on other ones etcetera, etcetera. 2) They
always bring it up .. yet act invisible when people bring legitimate
logic to the table. They just ignore it all together! But time and
time again, especially now in the gen m.a. forum of this site ...
they infest all threads with their rhetoric. I used to read every
new posting in Gen M.A. .... now I read very few.
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RyuShiKan
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I don't mind.
To me it reminds me of those religious nuts that have to tell everyone how "great" & "better' their religion is compared to everyone else's............
by repeating the same old rhetoric all the time I can't help but wonder if they I trying to convince me or themselves.
I also have studied Arnis, Jkd/ Mauy Thai
I've done Ju Jitsu,Wrestling, Boxing
I've been to Bondo Seminars many of them
I've been to NinJitsu seminars
I've trained Wit Judoka's & Somboist.
So yes i can & will talk in the other forums
Since im familar with the subject.
Kirk Are U that same Guy they said
Needed a Hug??????????????????
:wah: :wah: :wah:
I guess U have not goton it yet.
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I've done Ju Jitsu,Wrestling, Boxing
I've been to Bondo Seminars many of them
I've been to NinJitsu seminars
I've trained Wit Judoka's & Somboist.
So yes i can & will talk in the other forums
Since im familar with the subject.
Kirk Are U that same Guy they said
Needed a Hug??????????????????
:wah: :wah: :wah:
I guess U have not goton it yet.
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Kirk
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Once again you choose to result to personal attack, instead of
addressing the facts and issues brought up. You fit the
stereotype quite well. Is it your contention that you're the only
one that has the right to post their beliefs?
Are you the same guy that can't/won't address ALL of the
issues presented in threads such as these?
http://www.martialtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4288
http://www.martialtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4289
http://www.martialtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4291
Guess you're one of them, since I haven't seen your posts on
any of them.
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Kirk
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Nice way to address the issues ... NOT!
OH COME ON !!
Can we get this thread locked or something? Lets please not have another stupid fight in here.
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Can we get this thread locked or something? Lets please not have another stupid fight in here.
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Kirk
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Don't worry, I am NOT going there!
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Kirk
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JDenz
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First of all any surface that slows down a striker ie: mats is going to slow down a a grappler as well. What is the most dangerous time for a grappler? Closing to the clinch, If you think slow footing helps a grappler it doesn't, it actually makes it harder to take a good striker down. The only arguement that works about UFC being weighted towards grapplers is the cage. But so what fight in a ring then. I don't hear boxers or kickboxers or MT guys say fighting in a ring takes away there striking.
No offense to anyone but you are the guys that are resorting to personal attacks, I havent attacked anyone and Primo was commenting on a diffrent thread wth regards to kirk.
What is wrong with Buffalo. We are in a great spot we are less then a 2 hour drive from good instruction in any art. Toronto is practicly around the cornor, we have Hartmen here, We have great seminor, Esfhia is right down the road in Rocester.
Comparing fighting to religion is kind of accurate. I mean Most of the eastern arts have a whole religion base in them pretty much. For your guys information I have been to a Zen Buddist Temple, I have done Zen services with Sholin monks when they were in town. (Canada) They were pretty cool, but that doesn't mean I think they could really fight.
To the guy that said he has fought alot of grapplers and never lost, I have fought alot of strikers and never lost does that mean striking sucks? No it means I havent fought the a guy that could strike good and hard enough to finish me. I guarentie if you walked into a BJJ school and challenged everyone someone would probley beat you just like if I walked into a Karate school and challenged them. I started in Karate for three years saw how weak it was in alot of areas and augmented my training with submission fighting and boxing.
No offense to anyone but you are the guys that are resorting to personal attacks, I havent attacked anyone and Primo was commenting on a diffrent thread wth regards to kirk.
What is wrong with Buffalo. We are in a great spot we are less then a 2 hour drive from good instruction in any art. Toronto is practicly around the cornor, we have Hartmen here, We have great seminor, Esfhia is right down the road in Rocester.
Comparing fighting to religion is kind of accurate. I mean Most of the eastern arts have a whole religion base in them pretty much. For your guys information I have been to a Zen Buddist Temple, I have done Zen services with Sholin monks when they were in town. (Canada) They were pretty cool, but that doesn't mean I think they could really fight.
To the guy that said he has fought alot of grapplers and never lost, I have fought alot of strikers and never lost does that mean striking sucks? No it means I havent fought the a guy that could strike good and hard enough to finish me. I guarentie if you walked into a BJJ school and challenged everyone someone would probley beat you just like if I walked into a Karate school and challenged them. I started in Karate for three years saw how weak it was in alot of areas and augmented my training with submission fighting and boxing.
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JDenz
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Thanks for the post KIRK. As the thread was started we want to know what the critera was for the rankings.
I'm going to make a statement that will most likely get me some crappy comments, but here goes:
Regardless of the style, if a person trains extremely hard, and long, they can be a good fighter, again, regardless of style.
People are coming in here saying grappling and bjj is a reality chekc, I say extreme trainers are the reality check, not someone who studies a specific style.
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Regardless of the style, if a person trains extremely hard, and long, they can be a good fighter, again, regardless of style.
People are coming in here saying grappling and bjj is a reality chekc, I say extreme trainers are the reality check, not someone who studies a specific style.
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MMA is Striking 7 Grappling
What does that mean?Anyway, my system has quite a bit of both worlds as well there, so I would say it is a reality check that you know both. The reality check is that traditional MAist have been half@ss training and now are having to realize that people are training harder now. I wouldn't try to say that any specific move is new, they have ALL been done before, believe me.
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bob919
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so true ithink everyone ios looking for the ultimate martial art or a special secret dimmak knock out point newsflash people; neither of these exist it is near enough impossible to compare the martial arts street effectiveness with one another all i cna say is almost all martial arts are over complicated with too many techniques. it is better to know 10 techniques 100% than 100 techniques 10%.
