The Perfect Fighter?

Dragon Fist

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Hello fellow Martial Artists.

In MMA, we all strive to be the perfect complete fighter.
Here is my question,
If you could master 5 different styles of combative arts (Martial Arts, Wrestling, Boxing etc...)
Which one would they be and why?

For example.
  1. Muay Thai - for stand up fighting
  2. Aikido - for take downs and take down defense
  3. Judo - for takedowns/Submissions
  4. Wrestling - for ground control and positioning
  5. BJJ - for submissions and submission defense
 
In no certain order.

1- Kenpo: An excellent stand up art that provides many responses to various attacks.

2- BJJ: Ground work, submissions, takedowns, etc.

3- Muay Thai: Excellent stand up as well as kicking.

4- Boxing: To improve on punching skills.

5- Any of the FMAs: Arnis, Kali, Pekiti Tirsia, etc.: Excellent weapon defense, as well as some devastating empty hand skills.

Mike
 
Dragon Fist said:
Hello fellow Martial Artists.

In MMA, we all strive to be the perfect complete fighter.
Here is my question,
If you could master 5 different styles of combative arts (Martial Arts, Wrestling, Boxing etc...)
Which one would they be and why?

For example.
  1. Muay Thai - for stand up fighting
  2. Aikido - for take downs and take down defense
  3. Judo - for takedowns/Submissions
  4. Wrestling - for ground control and positioning
  5. BJJ - for submissions and submission defense
Aikido doesnt have the takedowns or takedown defense suitable to MMA.
 
1. Kenpo - stand up fighting
2. Benny Urquidez Kick Boxing - Good practical ring skills and training regimen
3. Gokor Chivichyan - Ground Fighting
4. Systema - Self defense including weapons defense
5. 1 - 4 should be enough

Jeff
 
1 - Muay Thai for the hands, elbows, knees, and striking while in the clinch as well as for learning to take strikes.
2 - Greco-Roman wrestling for the takedowns against someone without a jacket.
3 - Submission Wrestling (or gi-less BJJ) for all the groundwork, including positional heirarchy and submissions, and the leg takedowns.

That's it.
 
Erik said:
1 - Muay Thai for the hands, elbows, knees, and striking while in the clinch as well as for learning to take strikes.
2 - Greco-Roman wrestling for the takedowns against someone without a jacket.
3 - Submission Wrestling (or gi-less BJJ) for all the groundwork, including positional heirarchy and submissions, and the leg takedowns.

That's it.
What about weapons defense?
 
MMA = no weapons.
Real Life = no realistic way to stop a knife without a shield or a gun.
 
SammyB57 said:
MMA = no weapons.

True

Real Life = no realistic way to stop a knife without a shield or a gun.

We need to remember that not every fight we get ourselves into is going to be against someone with a ton of training. We really don't know what the persons fight skill is like until the fight has begun. Of course, anytime one is faced with a weapon, getting away is the first priority. If that is not an option, getting an equalizer, IE: Anything that you can use to aid in your defense against the knife, should be the next priority. Is it hard to defend empty hand against a bladed weapon? Yes. Is it impossible? No.

Mike
 
I believe the questions was about MMA not realistic training.

I would agree with Erik here.
1 - Muay Thai for the hands, elbows, knees, and striking while in the clinch as well as for learning to take strikes.
2 - Greco-Roman wrestling for the takedowns against someone without a jacket.
3 - Submission Wrestling (or gi-less BJJ) for all the groundwork, including positional heirarchy and submissions, and the leg takedowns.

May add a touch of Kempo/kenpo and or Boxing along with some BJJ. If I have to pick 5 arts. If not the original 3 will do.
 
Heh -- seen this before, always fun to do...

1. Kickboxing, for good strike skills.
2. Judo, for throws, groundwork, etc.
3. FMA, for weapons primarily.
4. Tai Chi, for health, philosophy, and more fun stuff.
5. Old school JJJ, similar reasons to Tai Chi.

I include the bottom two because, in all honesty, at least #'s 1 and 2 are more reliant on younger, healthier bodies. The lower two will hold me in good stead at older ages. FMA are just awesome.

Edit: I didn't include anything on guns, although I think that's an important element of modern fighting, simply because it seemed like we were more focused on more 'traditional' fighting in this thread. *grin*
 
Dragon Fist said:
What about weapons defense?
Whoops. Forgot about that while posting.

Gosh, I guess a mixture of FMA (for the knife & stick) and track and field (to get the heck out of there) ought to do it.

But do we mean MMA like the sport? Or MMA like actually mixed martial arts covering all sorts of different types of engagements.
 
Erik said:
Whoops. Forgot about that while posting.

Gosh, I guess a mixture of FMA (for the knife & stick) and track and field (to get the heck out of there) ought to do it.

But do we mean MMA like the sport? Or MMA like actually mixed martial arts covering all sorts of different types of engagements.
all types of engagements, sorry forgot to mention that
 
1. Shoot Wrestling (Mauy Thai & Submission Wrestling)
2. Arnis ( F.M.A.)
3. Wrestling for Endurance & Strenth
4. Ju Jitsu
5. J.K.D. Having no way & No Limitation
 
1. kempo
2. western boxing
3. greco-roman wrestling
4. systema
5. arnis

personally i think my number one has it all right now......but that simply has to do with the way you train.

shawn
 
SammyB57 said:
Real Life = no realistic way to stop a knife without a shield or a gun.
i think i would have to disagree with this point.......its all in the training

shawn
 
Dragon Fist said:
Hello fellow Martial Artists.

In MMA, we all strive to be the perfect complete fighter.
Here is my question,
If you could master 5 different styles of combative arts (Martial Arts, Wrestling, Boxing etc...)
Which one would they be and why?

For example.

  1. Muay Thai - for stand up fighting
  2. Aikido - for take downs and take down defense
  3. Judo - for takedowns/Submissions
  4. Wrestling - for ground control and positioning
  5. BJJ - for submissions and submission defense



1. Boxing- for punching
2. Tae Kwon Do- for kicking
3. BJJ- for submission and submission defense
4. Judo- for takedowns
5. Arnis-for weapon offense and defense
 
I dont really believe learning any three styles can make anyone a good fighter but I'll put them down for thread's sake.

BTW, I practice most of these anyways. I will post them in order of a typical fight pattern, starting with Bujinkan Budo Taijutsu as a base (because of its range of techniques and specializations)

BBT- see above
Sayoc Kali - Weapon defense zoning and weapon angles
Aiki No Michi - Entering, off-balancing, throws
Greco roman wrestling - upper body Takedowns
GJJ - Ground control and finishing techniques
 
Muay Thai - For the toughness
Judo - For throws, takedowns, chokes
Pentjak Silat - Devestating hand techniques
Kali Silat - Body angulation, weapon defence and attack
BJJ - Groundwork, submissions.

Just call him Sir.
 
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