Oily Dragon
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Get it? He's irritable from several days of the cranberry juice fasting. Ta-da!
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Everyone thinks that about their own point of view.
Different generations, I guess.
Cranberry juice causes kidney stones. Repeated dehydration causes kidney stones. Bad combo. The wrestler would have nothing in season, 30-40 beers off season.
Oily Dragon
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There have been a lot of claims made in this thread. Some pretty reasonable. Some a bit sketchy. And some flat out ridiculous.
Intermittent fasting, with fasts up to 16 hours, have been shown to have some potential benefits.
Can you stop eating for a week? Sure, most people can. But it's extremely unhealthy.
Can you stop drinking for a week? No. You cannot. It's ridiculous to even consider. Most people can survive 2-3 days without drinking, but they are going to be miserable. 4-5 days without water, while working out 8 hours a day? Nope. That's not happening. If you're still alive 5 days in, you're going to be in the ICU with multiple organ failure.
Intermittent fasting, with fasts up to 16 hours, have been shown to have some potential benefits.
Can you stop eating for a week? Sure, most people can. But it's extremely unhealthy.
Can you stop drinking for a week? No. You cannot. It's ridiculous to even consider. Most people can survive 2-3 days without drinking, but they are going to be miserable. 4-5 days without water, while working out 8 hours a day? Nope. That's not happening. If you're still alive 5 days in, you're going to be in the ICU with multiple organ failure.
You were never 19 years old? Different times, different generations, I guess.
" Cranberry contains high amounts of oxalate, which causes kidney stones."
5 Myths About Kidney Stones: Robert J Cornell, MD, PA: Urologist
If you’ve ever gotten a kidney stone you know that it’s not like a nagging cough, it is quite painful and in extreme cases can even require surgery to corre
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Oily Dragon
Senior Master
Read that. Cranberry juice doesn't cause the stones. Dehydration does." Cranberry contains high amounts of oxalate, which causes kidney stones."
5 Myths About Kidney Stones: Robert J Cornell, MD, PA: Urologist
If you’ve ever gotten a kidney stone you know that it’s not like a nagging cough, it is quite painful and in extreme cases can even require surgery to corre
Cigarettes cause cancer. That's a science fact. Cranberry causing stones? I don't think so.
Go talk to my urologist about it. Are you a urologist?
Are you a doctor of some sort? If you feel that's needed to provide basic medical advice I must assume so...
Yes, I was. But because I was a 19 year old HUMAN, I didn't go 5 days without drinking anything while working out 8 hours a day.
You can tell I didn't, because I'm alive. And I can still pee.
Poorly worded. A diet high in oxylate increases the chances of developing kidney stones.
I'm telling you what my urologist told me. I even provided a link to support the point.
So am I and so can I. If you've lived a more sheltered life, good for you I guess.
You kind of remind me another person who used to post here. That person also made ridiculous claims. As I recall, he claimed to have gotten what, from his description, was a large flail chest. And that despite that injury (which he claimed someone reduced at the event) he continued fighting in a tournament.
Sort of like going without any intake at all for 5 days while working out 8+ hours a day. Never happened.
Believe whatever you want. Not sure why this particular reality is making you so defensive, but that's up to you. It was not particularly unusual among the highly competitive back in my day and days before that. Not every young man was as fragile and frightened as today's youth.
Because it defies possibility.
Oily Dragon
Senior Master
I don't need to study urology to know what you said isn't true. Nothing in the medical literature claims cranberry juice causes any illness.
But if it does...let's pretend for a second...where are the warning labels on cranberry juice? Think of the young children just filling up their poor bodies with vitamin C and other antioxidants!!
Now if you'd said "grapefruit juice", I'm all for warning labels on that stuff. Toxic! There are literally a million medications and supplements that Should Not Ever be taken with grapefruit.
Clearly it does not, because here I am.
I don't know what to tell you, my urologist told me one thing and some faceless whoever on the internet says something else. I think I know who I'll trust. You are free to believe what you will with my best wishes.
Oily Dragon
Senior Master
Whatever your urologist told you doesn't mean cranberry juice causes internal stones.
What does my face have to do with the relative safety of cranberry juice, compared to god-knows-what-else you've put in your body? Or what you've neglected?
You don't drink enough water, do you? I can always spot you, because I was you, once. If you actually read all the dietary advice in this thread (yours, as well as the MD) you should come away with a strong desire to aqua-fy.
