Actually, no. See, I'm not a Judo guy (I trained in it years ago, and used it effectively). I just happen to know too many people who've made effective use of it to buy into a couple of quotes by someone with an obvious bias against sport arts. You've demonstrated nothing, given no real evidence, and claimed "truth". That's pretty shoddy.
But you still have not indicated which part of the Judo training can be used to deal with the fist flying situation.
Perhaps. But you made two posts in quick succession claiming two arts with a history of effective SD use aren't good for SD. And with far too much confidence in your own statements (which still seem to be largely based on a couple of quotes). I didn't care for your approach, and responded.
I'm not a fan of fighting on the ground, but sometimes that's a better choice even for those of us who don't like it.
I was pointing out how the first two "better than Judo" systems listed... did exactly those things. Care to guess where I was the first time I did blindfolded randori? (hint: a Judo mat, taking a Judo class)
You are the one bringing up the idea that you cannot use Judo or BJJ on the streets because they are not wearing a gi to grab or on a well lit soft mat. What the youtube clips show, are different real world situations, where real world people apply their Judo techniques... that work and are effective and even recognizable... without a gi or mat or lighting or a controlled environment. I don't need to know which guy was the good guy and which was the bad guy or if he was taking his lunch money or made a bad mamma joke to see that the training was successfully used out in the real world.
It's an opinion...he's entitled to his opinion just as you are
Wow, Bec did an amazing job with that early arm bar escape. That looked to be over right after they got to the ground.
Yep, until he dismisses everyone else's simply because it disagrees with his own.
Agree. There are disadvantages to the ground in some circumstances. We could also name some disadvantages to staying standing under some circumstances.
This is where I have a problem with your posts. You claim you are being factual. You are asserting an opinion. One you've not supported with any significant evidence. And when others pointed out evidence to the contrary, you just dismiss it. I don't let that slide.
Many years ago, 2 MA guys fought against many opponents and knocked down many Until their opponents threw rocks at these 2 guys and send both to EM. When friends visited these 2 guys, one guy said, "My MA teacher didn't teach me how to dodge throwing rocks".
You are asking a very wide open question. Once the Judo guy grabs you, his aim is to take your balance. Once he has taken your balance, your flying fist won't do much... there is no structure or power behind it. From that point on, he will throw you, pin you and submit or choke you out. Unless you can escape, your flying fist will be ineffective. Their entire curriculum is based on taking balance, throwing, pinning and submitting without allowing the opponent out. So, pretty much all of Judo prevents the flying fist situation. This of course means that it has to be done right. Thats the challenge for all arts. Do your zombie arms wrong, and you get punched. Do your rhino guard wrong... you get punched.
You are probably talking about the entering strategy. Judo practices quick entering strategy. They fight over getting a grip on the lapel. In Judo, you want to grab their lapel, and prevent yours from being grabbed. Much of this can translate to preventing straight punches pretty easily. For the round punches, they move in closer. But the biggest defense is that they close too fast and stay too close to be punched. Again, ideally. But to defeat that with punches, means to maintain your distance... which also needs to be done correctly. Now, you have two fighters trying to make the other make a mistake. Its not which art is better, its which fighter is better, on that occurrence.
