This is one of the common arguments among Taekwondo practitioners. The simple answer is that Taekwondo is a sport and it is a martial art. What is really funny to see is how fanatical we are. Sometimes just for the sake of fun I mention that the sport aspect of Taekwondo is the only unique thing in Taekwondo, which is when I start to receive hate mail, (I actually believe this). I think that we should see the big picture. The audience doesnÂ’t care if we are a sport or a martial art; people just care what is to them and how our training can help them or if they have a child who would like to start training in Taekwondo.
When I was younger, I too was really fanatical about the difference between traditional and sport. I did look down at those schools that were focusing only on sparring. I felt that every school should teach the same as we did. We had sparring, self-defence, poomsae, 1 and 3 step sparring and well, pretty much everything.
Today I am older, more experienced and I have learnt that it doesnÂ’t matter what I or anyone else is thinking. The teachers of individual schools decide what the style of the school is and if students are happy and satisfied, I think thatÂ’s enough.
For me, Taekwondo is a martial art and a sport and I donÂ’t separate those things. One of the prominent Taekwondo writers asks if we should consider Taekwondo as a martial art because in sparring we donÂ’t use many hand techniques only mainly kicking techniques. My question is what is the definition of a martial art? For me, one of the definitions is of course the ability to defend yourself.
Well, boxers don’t use kicks and Judo doesn’t use strikes but many of them are really good with self-defence and I wouldn’t like to fight against them in a “real fight” (I would prefer run anyway- I am too old for fighting).
Your thoughts?
/Markku
This was the OP first and last post in this thread. He never came back, but he must have had fun looking.
After over 200 posts, I went back and reread the original OP and found it interesting. He commented, gave his insight, and asked for thoughts.
To sum it up, the paying public will determine what they want and what gives them the best bang for their buck.
In the mid 60s people came to the dojo for SD. But, SD became boring because of the directness of the techniques, "low kicks, no protective gear", and in practice if you took a bare knuckle shot you were going down, and it never turned out good.
Once people learned how to sue, for things we took for granted, (stitches, broken bones) things got very different. Prices for Ins, if you even had any went way up. The price of training with all the amenities, (nice bleachers, air conditioning, nice lockers, a ton of training equipment) and the economy, drove that 15.00 per month I payed years ago, to around 175.00/200.00 per month and more.
It was said that people wanted more, yes, they could not afford to go to work with things not working well psychically. And this is very understandably so.
It is very difficult to address and cover all that has been said, but there is a common thread running through it all.
SD vs Sport.
Big dojo vs store front, (garage).
Kids over adults.
Lots of money, little money.
Modern ways vs traditional teaching
In the ends my friends it is what works best for YOU, and what kind of a mark you want to leave on life and your students. Nobody is right, and nobody is wrong, just different.
MT is meant to give insight and build up the martial arts community, not make us look like a bunch of white belts. Aside from some personal attacks, much good information has been shared, and of this I hope we can have a consensus.
I'm not sure this thread is over yet, I have enjoyed the read, and I do hope we all come out of it intact.
My 2 cents, enjoy the rest of your day. Wes (seasoned)