Sport vs self defense.

[Tony Dismukes]

"Street beefs" really? People really do this sort of childish, macho BS?
It's ridiculous.

Despite the name, it’s just a entry-tier amateur MMA promotion.

 

[GojuTommy]

Interesting segue.

And consider the sport vs. self defense implications of this.

What if your sparring/throwdown partner is a deranged loon?

Are you just talking it yourself or did you forget to switch accounts?

 

[GojuTommy]

Did I?

Should I post mugshots on MT, to appease your lust? Criminal charges, convictions, countless encounters with law enforcement.

Would you like some links to the special ops forum? Conspiracy rants filmed while driving motor vehicles targeting West Virginia State Police? Threats of violence, retribution, vengeance?

Maybe you should just move along. You're a bit too eager to look into the mind of a seriously deranged man.

Fine. Here's a bit to help you out if that's the case. Look into Ron vs. Don (ninjas both). And leave me alone about this going forward, please. It was disturbing enough the first time I witnessed it.

Lol, I’ve asked for proof, a mugshot, a news article. You’ve refused to provide any.

 

[GojuTommy]

Despite the name, it’s just a entry-tier amateur MMA promotion.

They also do boxing and kickboxing or MT as well.

 

[GojuTommy]

You should check out a brophy tent

Just looked it up but seems a lot more legit as it is following a historical tradition of roaming tent fight promotions lol

 

[Oily Dragon]

Are you just talking it yourself or did you forget to switch accounts?

What?

 

[Oily Dragon]

Lol, I’ve asked for proof, a mugshot, a news article. You’ve refused to provide any.

On the contrary I posted more than enough to keep you busy all weekend. Do your own homework!

You might just be on the wrong website, bub. Please don't try to shine me on with your aggressive tude.

 

[Oily Dragon]

They also do boxing and kickboxing or MT as well.

Are you personally affiliated?

I'm trying to understand why you're so emotionally invested in this particular tangent.

I know why I am, I watched Icy Mike beat up a felon and worried about his well being, and wondered why the other guy wasn't incarcerated.

 

[Tez3]

Despite the name, it’s just a entry-tier amateur MMA promotion.

I'd have thought people would just laugh at it, it's a ridiculous name.


We don't have a tradition here of roaming tents fighting , there were bare knuckle fights at fairgrounds between humans though. The bare knuckle fights we still have and the gypsy fights of course.

 

[Oily Dragon]

I'd have thought people would just laugh at it, it's a ridiculous name.


We don't have a tradition here of roaming tents fighting , there were bare knuckle fights at fairgrounds between humans though. The bare knuckle fights we still have and the gypsy fights of course.

Romani wrestling traditions are awesome.

So awesome, a massive Puerto Rican pro wrestler decided one day to become "Gypsy Joe". Rocking that singlet.

 

[GojuTommy]

On the contrary I posted more than enough to keep you busy all weekend. Do your own homework!

You might just be on the wrong website, bub. Please don't try to shine me on with your aggressive tude.

You’ve made claims. You’ve posted no evidence to support your claims

 

[GojuTommy]

Are you personally affiliated?

I'm trying to understand why you're so emotionally invested in this particular tangent.

I know why I am, I watched Icy Mike beat up a felon and worried about his well being, and wondered why the other guy wasn't incarcerated.

I’m not emotionally invested just tired of people making claims online acting like everyone should just believe them.

He beat up a felon in an amateur fight promotion? Who cares? Are you related to Rob? Is that why you’re apparently so invested emotionally?

 

[Oily Dragon]

You’ve made claims. You’ve posted no evidence to support your claims

I don't have to, and the mods already warned you to stop demanding evidence.

Public record is public record. Do your own homework, if you're so interested.

And I've asked you twice to stop. You are so not exhibiting MT spirit right now.

 

[Oily Dragon]

I’m not emotionally invested just tired of people making claims online acting like everyone should just believe them.

He beat up a felon in an amateur fight promotion? Who cares? Are you related to Rob? Is that why you’re apparently so invested emotionally?

Rob who?

I don't think you even know what's going on right now.

I get concerned when online martial artists pick backyard fights with criminal predators who might come back and bust a cap or shank their liver, so yeah, I'm a little invested. And hearing "what you guys think about Icy Mike" triggered me.

What's your excuse for being obtuse? Low self opinion?

 

[Oily Dragon]

Interesting segue.

And consider the sport vs. self defense implications of this.

What if your sparring/throwdown partner is a deranged loon?

Bump.

Oh, and "Did you forget to switch accounts"

Just wow. I think it's safe to say GojuTommy is not here in good faith. Even when I tried to get the thread back on the rails, this dude is a crazy train and accusing me of what exactly?

Dude maybe just chill out. This isn't court, it's a chat.

 

[Oily Dragon]

Speaking of court, it's come to my attention that Ron Collins is now currently serving a 5 year prison sentence for weapon possession (lying on ATF forms about not previously being in a mental institution).

Federal Jury Finds Greenbrier County Man Guilty on Federal Gun Charges

www.justice.gov

This is on top of all the other charges/convictions that can easily be googled.

"assaulting a police officer, stalking, intimidation, malicioulooos wounding, terrorist threats, possession of child porn, delinquency of minors, and possibly attempting to use alcohol and rape drugs to have sex with a freaking 13-year-girl" to quote one MMA website in 2017 (1-2 years before he was tracked down and charged with up to 20 years, got 60 months and a few years of supervised probation).

Did I mention he was trained by Ashida Kim?

Pick your fights carefully, folks.

 

[GojuTommy]

Speaking of court, it's come to my attention that Ron Collins is now currently serving a 5 year prison sentence for weapon possession (lying on ATF forms about not previously being in a mental institution).

Federal Jury Finds Greenbrier County Man Guilty on Federal Gun Charges

www.justice.gov

This is on top of all the other charges/convictions that can easily be googled.

"assaulting a police officer, stalking, intimidation, malicioulooos wounding, terrorist threats, possession of child porn, delinquency of minors, and possibly attempting to use alcohol and rape drugs to have sex with a freaking 13-year-girl" to quote one MMA website in 2017 (1-2 years before he was tracked down and charged with up to 20 years, got 60 months and a few years of supervised probation).

Did I mention he was trained by Ashida Kim?

Pick your fights carefully, folks.

I’m still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with the subject.

 

[Oily Dragon]

I’m still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with the subject.

Well that's easy, go read your original post.

"For a skilled sport fighter, often an adjustment of mindset and being able to quickly identify which mindset you need, along with some discussion about tactics and the actual goal of self defense is all the additional training needed"

Icy Mike was not prepared for his opponent, in a self defense sense.

He was clueless. He was worried about the location and how he'd look on camera, shaking hands, touching gloves?

Being a skilled sports fighter is not enough to defend yourself from a dangerous criminal predator.

When I said he was lucky he wasn't skinned and made into a lampshade, I wasn't exaggerating. I was being deadly serious. Collins had a hit list.

 

[drop bear]

Well that's easy, go read your original post.

"For a skilled sport fighter, often an adjustment of mindset and being able to quickly identify which mindset you need, along with some discussion about tactics and the actual goal of self defense is all the additional training needed"

Icy Mike was not prepared for his opponent, in a self defense sense.

He was clueless. He was worried about the location and how he'd look on camera, shaking hands, touching gloves?

Being a skilled sports fighter is not enough to defend yourself from a dangerous criminal predator.

When I said he was lucky he wasn't skinned and made into a lampshade, I wasn't exaggerating. I was being deadly serious. Collins had a hit list.

Well it kind of was though.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

Well it kind of was though.

Kind of was what?