Romney Picks Paul Ryan...
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Empty Hands
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Counterintuitive? Of course current seniors like the plan best! They've been grandfathered in! The evil genius of the man's plan is that when Medicare only covers 1/3 or 1/4 of seniors' health costs, it will be well into the future when all of today's seniors are gone. They won't have to be a part of the "shared sacrifice" of gutting the social safety net. If the Ryan plan went into effect immediately for all current seniors, then those numbers would be substantially different.
I am really surprised by Romney's pick. To far to the right to pick up the independent voters. That is where this election will be won and he may have just thrown it away to shore up the Republican base!
Elder999 you are absolutely right in that Biden is really, really good when he has to be. The debates should be interesting but I do not think that the Republican ticket will be getting a lot of independents. Maybe even lose some senior votes with this VP pick!
Elder999 you are absolutely right in that Biden is really, really good when he has to be. The debates should be interesting but I do not think that the Republican ticket will be getting a lot of independents. Maybe even lose some senior votes with this VP pick!
cdunn
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The most cynical part of me wonders if the Ryan pick is because the GOP power brokers have completely resigned themselves to the Romneyshambler losing the election, and they're positioning Ryan to be in the lead for thehead of the GOP ticket in 2016.
has the losing VP candidate ever had a chance to get office?
To me it looks more like a kiss of death from here....
Expecting a Benston-Quayle repeat, especially with the comparisons of Ryan to Kennedy?
Actually, Biden was given one other important task and that was to float the 'support for gay marriage' balloon to see if it could possibly turn in to votes. It must have been a successful test to turn the anti-gay marriage hardliner Obama to support state's rights to legalize gay marriage and eventually make the party platform.
cdunn
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Dole took a shot at it - Granted, he let the public have 20 years to forget about his run with Ford, but it's been the trend that the runner up in the previous primary gets the next shot in the Republican party. Now, take a good look at the Republican field this year... and I wonder if this isn't meant to have a longer term effect in getting the base to think of Ryan as a national candidate instead of a local one.
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Getting real for a moment, there are a lot of things to like about Ryan-he's physically fit, a hunter, and pro-second Amendment. There are a few thing to really not like about him, least of all his admiration for the work of Ayn Rand.
He doesn't "believe" in global warming. Or global climate change. Which is kind of funny, and makes me wonder which planet he's been spending this summer on.
He's a supporter of "personhood" for embryos-thinks they should be protected with all the rights of a person as soon as the sperm hits the ova. I get being against abortion-the man's a Catholic, and that's his perogative-but "personhood" is kind of kooky.
He wants to eliminate food stamps. I remember school friends whose families needed food stamps when their dad's got laid off. His budget basically cuts food stamps, so that corporations and people like Mitt Romney (and even me! ) can have increased tax cuts, or keep them. Ditto what he wants to do with Medicare-and, frankly, I don't see how giving our elderly vpuchers to buy their own insurance is in an substantive way different from Obamacare, or in any way practical without it.
He doesn't "believe" in global warming. Or global climate change. Which is kind of funny, and makes me wonder which planet he's been spending this summer on.
He's a supporter of "personhood" for embryos-thinks they should be protected with all the rights of a person as soon as the sperm hits the ova. I get being against abortion-the man's a Catholic, and that's his perogative-but "personhood" is kind of kooky.
He wants to eliminate food stamps. I remember school friends whose families needed food stamps when their dad's got laid off. His budget basically cuts food stamps, so that corporations and people like Mitt Romney (and even me! ) can have increased tax cuts, or keep them. Ditto what he wants to do with Medicare-and, frankly, I don't see how giving our elderly vpuchers to buy their own insurance is in an substantive way different from Obamacare, or in any way practical without it.
harlan
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He was probably in an alliterative mode. 'Let's see: Republican, Romney, and...how about Ryan. RRR.'
The new Three R's. Just rolls off the tongue. Like, KKK, and SS...S.
The new Three R's. Just rolls off the tongue. Like, KKK, and SS...S.
Yeah, because Romney and Ryan are so much more lily white than John Kerry and John Friggin Edwards...
Empty Hands
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Can you really call something "reform" when the long term plan is to eliminate it entirely?
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You do realize the KKK is a democrat institution, and the SS is a left wing socialist group which would mean neither one even comes close to being associated with the historical or modern Republican party. And if you happen to look at the party platform of the nazi, the SS being part of that party, it more closely resembles the modern democrat party platform, and not the Republican platform...
cdunn
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Yes, in the same way zero is a number.
cdunn
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He did. And got it passed into law.
If the American people really do elect the pluotcrat party to the presidency again, I hope you enjoy your tax hike.
No, there has NOT been a budget passed during Obama's presidency
cdunn
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Yet the requisite Medicare reforms were passed.
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And you don't see anything wrong with that? We are passing reforms with no plan to pay for it???
Yes, Obama did cut $700 BILLION from Medicare and now screams about what Ryan might do.
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