Rich Parsons vs. Matt Stone

[KennethKu]

Chufeng and Matt Stone are not ones who speak ill of people out of malice or pettiness. When they made a negative comment about someone, it is both on the money and that person is damn deserve the comment.

Competent martial artists are a dime a dozen. Effective martial art educators are a rare breed. Effective martial artists with integrity, are rare gems. They are the demigods in the MA world. (That's right, Rich. Pay attention and learn. The Gods are speaking to you. lol Their words are God's gift to humanity. lol)

 

[KennethKu]

Bob, as soon as you answer my questions about whether you have the stomach to handle the truth and whether you are going to hide behind your forum rules, then I will let you know how and where you can get the truth. Remember, you are the ones who said you want to be "nice" and not the truth. Soooo, what's eating you now?

Wait... is it me or you are pulling the same stunt on me that you did in keeping Robert from exposing some of you?

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Look stupid.... If you are this much of a moron that "PUT UP OR SHUT UP" wasn't 110% clear, I honestly have no idea how to get through that zone of obliviousness that surrounds you troll-boy.

You made the libelous statements.

The ball is in your court.

Post your so called proof/evidence.

I'm personally sick of jealous, petty minded wannabes like yourself taking potshots at something you personally can't attain.

So, post your information publicly, or STFU.

Its really that simple.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Ken, your problem is becoming quite obvious....


You may wish to see a doctor about that....

:rofl:

 

[Cruentus]

I don't know why I insist on talking to morons but...

Kenneth...
#1. I would love to see the divit left in your head from Renegades stick after you said anything to his face with the tone you express here online.

#2. If you think I would want to be a mod here, your nutz. I'm usually one step away from getting suspended at all times for one. For two, WAY to much work. So if that's what you think this is about....errr...sorry dude.

#3. All knowing? Me? Dude, if anyone here who as met me in person reads that while drinking, fluid will shoot out their nose from uncontrollable laughter. I act like a moron most of the time. I kid around, and I certianly don't take myself that seriously. If I am trying to act all knowing, I am certianly not doing a very good job of it. Also, I am never afraid to ask questions and LEARN about things I don't know much about. I see nothing wrong with that.

#4. You didn't know that I was petty and shallow? Well, if slamming and name calling people who don't agree with you, as you've done, is a demonstration of not being "shallow" then I guess I'll take what you said as a compliment.

PAUL
:asian:

 

[Bob Hubbard]

I think Mr. Ku has exposed himself for what he truely is.

 

[Datu Tim Hartman]

Rest assured that the day will come.

Looking forward to the day.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

3 Simple questions for Mr. Ku.

1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?


You have free reign in this thread.

So, answer the questions.

If not, then it will be obvious that you are, and have been, a liar.

 

[KennethKu]

No problem.

I don't even know who the F are you and was wandering why the F you have been butting in all this. Then Kaith brought up your name in the cross hair of fraud busting. Now I know why you have been an ***. lol

 

[Bob Hubbard]

3 Simple questions for Mr. Ku.

1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?


You have free reign in this thread.

So, answer the questions.

If not, then it will be obvious that you are, and have been, a liar.

 

[KennethKu]

3 Simple questions for Mr. Ku.

1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?


You have free reign in this thread.

So, answer the questions.

If not, then it will be obvious that you are, and have been, a liar.

Calling me names is not going to change the reality you guys are in. I will call my source and see if he wants to be involved.

Feel free to call me anything you want. People I respect, know the truth already. I have already shared with them. It is their opinions of me that is of interest to me. Your conduct would only reflect onto yourselves. So. Go ahead and make a real *** out of yourself. lol

 

[Rich Parsons]

Chufeng and Matt Stone are not ones who speak ill of people out of malice or pettiness. When they made a negative comment about someone, it is both on the money and that person is damn deserve the comment.

Competent martial artists are a dime a dozen. Effective martial art educators are a rare breed. Effective martial artists with integrity, are rare gems. They are the demigods in the MA world. (That's right, Rich. Pay attention and learn. The Gods are speaking to you. lol Their words are God's gift to humanity. lol)

First off, to those that wish to remain out of this I respect and this is in no way a comment towards them or anyone else with the exception of Mr. Kenneth Ku.


Kenneth Ku,

You are a paper tiger and hide behind the screen and keyboards of the world. As to the Demi-gods of this world, I will let any stand and judge me. You would be surprised on who I would pick. Yet I do not believe that they are Demi-gods of the martial arts world of anywhere, you included.

You came on here and made some remarks that were general. I asked who, and where, and why? And even how? Yet you could not and did not reply nor would you admit that it should have been specific, and then name those you wished to name.

This thread is the result of me and my attitude expressed here. I made comments that were generic and unspecific and others took exception to those comments. I have been asked by many who know why I have behaved like this. I have had reported posts on this and the threads about comments made by others to me or in general. I have asked for this to remain open until I could get something across and maybe some resolution.

Some resolution did occur on this thread, and as I said before Thank You, to those who know they are, for replying and clarifying and making their opinions known. Almost always in a clear and concise manner using logic. Hmmm Logic, wow what a novel concept. Of course they as well as myself have made a few missteps, including a post I made to you after the resolution that some believed was an attack on them. It was easy to believe such, as the comment was not specific and concise.

The point for me to continue was to try to educate everyone here, that it was not a oneway street, and that everyone involved has emotions and opinions and some went over the line here according to rules. Some of those rules were not in place and they helped to generate more policy.

The lesson was to express yourself in a clear and concise manner to avoid confusion. Use your data and logic to make your points and let it stand at that, and see what happens. I also was trying to make a point that collateral damage is not a good thing. You can make enemies over the littlest things, and also make yourself not look well. Yet, by being clear and concise you can target your cross hairs and use a sniper rifle and take out your opponent with a single shot, or series of posts and data. If you uses a ballistic missile or tactical nuclear device, there almost always will be collateral damage.

I asked if I was the person, you replied that I was not in the cross hairs. You would not admit that I was legit. Why? Maybe because you know nothing about me. That statement being the truth would have headed off allot of this argument. Yet you had to hide behind the smoke and mirrors, and that is one of the lessons I learned from the fraud busting episode was that the more smoke and mirrors, and more likely their is an issue or a fraud. You fit this bill to a tee. I have persuade you to make this point as well as the lesson above to you and those who read this stuff. It was not one sided. All sides were involved.

As to meeting people, I offered to meet you. You replied to Renegade yet not me. HMMMM, I admitted early that I expect no one to be afraid of me. Yet, with your insistence of having a smoking gun yet it is only a reflection and of no substance, and you also to reply to me. One could easily take that as you are afraid to verbally spar with me, or to meet me in person? What would you have to fear from a fat and stupid person who barely knows how to play with his stick?

Present you evidence, or in silence admit that you were wrong. Or continue to post here with nothing but insults. Wait, I get it, you want to be kicked out of here. Is there some place on the net or in real life where people gather and it is a status symbol to be escorted out of the MT forum? Hmmmm, Makes me wonder?

I am asking you to present your data.

I am asking you to present your data.

I am asking you to present your data.

Waiting Is

 

[Bob Hubbard]

The truth is pretty evident.

You have nothing, and are a liar.

I don't call you anything really. Your own actions have named you.


1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?

These are too tough for you? You were the one who brought up the 'frauds', yet can't back anything up. You have no back up in this fight....seems to me, you are nothing more than hot air.

 

[KennethKu]

I know your done, but...I can't help myself Matt.

So, Renegades credability is not in question.

Bob Hubbard is Renegades student, and doesn't claim status or rank higher then he is. So, his credability is not in question.

That leaves shadowchaser. Now, I read the thread where RSK hammered shadowchaser, basically saying that his Sikaran looked like a crappy version of a Japanese style. RSK is total BS. For one, the Philippine Islands ain't that far from Japan, Korea, or any where else in Asia. It's no mystery that styles often merged together, and that different arts pirated from one another. And as to him having "crappy technique," by who's standards...RSK? You can't tell how "Good" someone is from still pics on the internet unless they do something REALLY bad, and even then, its hard...sorry. So to say that shadowchaser must not be legit is chasing windmills on RSK's part. Unless you have other sources or evidence, the arguement that Shadowchaser is a fraud is piss poor.

So, is it safe to say here that the arguement is not about "legitimacy" of the MT board, but it is about disagreement in the way things were run?

:asian:

And this from a guy who can't tell point fighting from full contact.

Poor Janulis. He went to suck up to Dan Anderson and to plug his book, telling people how great that book is and how it is geared towards point fighting. The author had to come in and clear up the BS.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

And this from a guy who can't tell point fighting from full contact.

Poor Janulis. He went to suck up to Dan Anderson and to plug his book, telling people how great that book is and how it is geared towards point fighting. The author had to come in and clear up the BS.

Ku,

Stop trying to deflect the arguement.

1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?

 

[KennethKu]

The truth is pretty evident.

You have nothing, and are a liar.

I don't call you anything really. Your own actions have named you.


1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?

These are too tough for you? You were the one who brought up the 'frauds', yet can't back anything up. You have no back up in this fight....seems to me, you are nothing more than hot air.

No Bob. You see, it is best to hold all the cards and see where the chips fall. I have all the cards and have nothing to gain nor lose. lol

If you are mature and cool headed and all the qualities that a grown man would have, you would not have acted the way you all have. I want to see if you can cope with stress or not.

If you have read carefully, you would have noticed that I told you that this piece of intelligence regarding some rotten apples on your team, was shared with me. I didn't believe that you yourself were crooked. I have always thought that you simply have been given bad counsel. Afterall, we all have bad friends. At the time, I thought, in course of time, Bob would see the truth. As I sat and listened, you have become a dissappointment. And your conduct here at this thread, is truly unbecoming. How can you be so infantile?

 

[Rich Parsons]

Calling me names is not going to change the reality you guys are in. I will call my source and see if he wants to be involved.

Feel free to call me anything you want. People I respect, know the truth already. I have already shared with them. It is their opinions of me that is of interest to me. Your conduct would only reflect onto yourselves. So. Go ahead and make a real *** out of yourself. lol

You open your mouth before having cleared your source.

Boy, if you were my friend, I would beat you senseless for the lack of respect and putting someone into a bad place.

I am glad I am not your friend, so you can try to beat me senseless, and thereby prove your inferior self.

I am asking to you have permission to present your data? What No? Yet, you have had all this time to go and call or ask, and now you are just doing it.

The AnnoyingMouse (* Spelt wrong on purpose *) source know could reject you and you would be able to get out of this. How sly of you. How much of this smoke and redicrection and mirror use are we to take? You are not a martial artist, your are a magician and nto even a good one at that. :idunno:

I jsut do not understand some people. :idunno:

 

[Rich Parsons]

No Bob. You see, it is best to hold all the cards and see where the chips fall. I have all the cards and have nothing to gain nor lose. lol

If you are mature and cool headed and all the qualities that a grown man would have, you would not have acted the way you all have. I want to see if you can cope with stress or not.

If you have read carefully, you would have noticed that I told you that this piece of intelligence regarding some rotten apples on your team, was shared with me. I didn't believe that you yourself were crooked. I have always thought that you simply have been given bad counsel. Afterall, we all have bad friends. At the time, I thought, in course of time, Bob would see the truth. As I sat and listened, you have become a dissappointment. And your conduct here at this thread, is truly unbecoming. How can you be so infantile?

Look into the mirror you are holding up for us.

Look into the mirror.

Can you honestly make these statements?

Can you tell who your pharmacist is? I want some of what you are taking. :idunno:

 

[KennethKu]

Ku,

Stop trying to deflect the arguement.

1 - Who was your source.

2 - Who are these Mods.

3 - Where is all this discussion?

So, I am not allowed to point out the stupidity of Janulis?

Anyway. I told you already. You will have your answers, as soon as I heard back from the person who shared the info with me. Till them, you will just have to be mature. There is such thing called honor, you know. I wouldn't break that, no matter what names you call me. Sooo, later.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Ken,
You seem to misunderstand.

I am not angry, pissed off or such.

I am laughing at you. Plain and simple.

Why? Because you are bluffing, and I'm calling your bluff.

Show your cards, or leave the table.

Here is a list of all current and past staff.

Who are the frauds?

Current Staff:
Me
Cthulhu
Seig
Rich Parsons
Tshadowchaser
KenpoTess
Nightingale
Kodanjaclay
Michael Billings


Former staff:
Arnisidor
Kirk
Rob Broad
Mike Casto
Jay Bell
Master of Blades
Tim Hartman