Reputation System Reset Pending...Dec 07

[14 Kempo]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, or seen as a picky little twit, but if people would quit saying things like they "PIP" someone with a single hit of rep ... do the math ... I believe a "PIP" is 10,000 rep points and the highest out there that I have seen is Exile with 16 stars, or so, that's around 1600 rep power and therefore would take him repping a person 6 times to get close to "PIP"ing them. (1600 x 6 = 9600) So, although some people certainly have some hit power, nobody is giving anybody a star with a single rep.

Don't mean to offend anyone, but it certanly hasn't been as bad as people are being led to believe, if they are failing to do the math for themselves ... IMO

 

[Sukerkin]

I'm glad it's not just me that's been going "Hmmm ... er ... really?" on those statements :lol:.

I just buffed up Kempo (ooh, er and without asking too ROFL) and I added five sub-markers to his current stock, leading to the conclusion that each one of those is 200 reptars worth. I have the feeling this is not a arithmetic scale tho' .... re-EDIT Lisa just confirmed that :tup:

 

[Lisa]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, or seen as a picky little twit, but if people would quit saying things like they "PIP" someone with a single hit of rep ... do the math ... I believe a "PIP" is 10,000 rep points and the highest out there that I have seen is Exile with 16 stars, or so, that's around 1600 rep power and therefore would take him repping a person 6 times to get close to "PIP"ing them. (1600 x 6 = 9600) So, although some people certainly have some hit power, nobody is giving anybody a star with a single rep.

Don't mean to offend anyone, but it certanly hasn't been as bad as people are being led to believe, if they are failing to do the math for themselves ... IMO

When I am referring to "pips" I am referring to the little squares. There are dark green ones and light green ones and gold ones and then for every 10,000 points of reputation you have you get a star. Dark green are worth 150 points, light green 250 and gold 1000. So, when I have over 1,000 points of rep power, I have the potential to give anyone a gold pip with one hit.

 

[14 Kempo]

When I am referring to "pips" I am referring to the little squares. There are dark green ones and light green ones and gold ones and then for every 10,000 points of reputation you have you get a star. Dark green are worth 150 points, light green 250 and gold 1000. So, when I have over 1,000 points of rep power, I have the potential to give anyone a gold pip with one hit.

Gotcha ... I don't agree, but I gotcha ... I never knew there was a difference between the colored 'pips', learned something new when it really doesn't matter anymore ... LOL

 

[grydth]

Santa hubbard is killing us al

PS just so everyone knows I'm only kidding :rofl:

I am used to Santas that give, and ones who take away....

My kids were raised believing in 2 Santas. There was, of course, the traditional one, but the girls would never behave after they had their presents. That's where REPO SANTA came in - he visited the homes of kids who were bad right after Christmas. He'd take their presents and give them to kids my girls disliked.

It worked, too, for years.

 

[Lisa]

I am used to Santas that give, and ones who take away....

My kids were raised believing in 2 Santas. There was, of course, the traditional one, but the girls would never behave after they had their presents. That's where REPO SANTA came in - he visited the homes of kids who were bad right after Christmas. He'd take their presents and give them to kids my girls disliked.

It worked, too, for years.

I like your thinkin'...

 

[grydth]

...and I've tried to rep, but every time it's failed with an error message. Eventually I gave up trying.

So THAT finally explains how I got to 3 stars!

 

[shesulsa]

...and I've tried to rep, but every time it's failed with an error message. Eventually I gave up trying.

Ever start a thread in the support forum or PM an Evil Steering Member?

 

[tellner]

I tried PMing a couple but never got a response.

 

[exile]

When I am referring to "pips" I am referring to the little squares. There are dark green ones and light green ones and gold ones and then for every 10,000 points of reputation you have you get a star. Dark green are worth 150 points, light green 250 and gold 1000. So, when I have over 1,000 points of rep power, I have the potential to give anyone a gold pip with one hit.

I think a gold pip must be worth 800 points. I have 1600+ points of rep power and the least effect of every rep hit I give to someone who's into the gold pips on their current line is two, count 'em, two more gold pips on top of what they've already got....

Yes, it's awesome power, but I've tried to use it only for good....

 

[MA-Caver]

I think a gold pip must be worth 800 points. I have 1600+ points of rep power and the least effect of every rep hit I give to someone who's into the gold pips on their current line is two, count 'em, two more gold pips on top of what they've already got....

Yes, it's awesome power, but I've tried to use it only for good....

Like Uncle Ben said... :"With Great Power comes Great Responsibility"

 

[arnisador]

The 50-item display is great...but is it possible to somehow highlight/separate/number the last 10 people you repped to make it easy to see who cannot be re-repped again yet? This isn't usually an issue for me but was today! I'd just like to be able to quickly check so I know when not to bother trying again yet.

 

[Lisa]

I think a gold pip must be worth 800 points. I have 1600+ points of rep power and the least effect of every rep hit I give to someone who's into the gold pips on their current line is two, count 'em, two more gold pips on top of what they've already got....

Yes, it's awesome power, but I've tried to use it only for good....

Yup, you are right exile. They are worth 800. See this link here. Thanks for catching that.

 

[14 Kempo]

Well, I don't care so much if the system exists or not, but I don't see any problem at all if someone with the reputation of Exile, or any of the other high rep people, can add two 'pips' to someone's reputation. Who better to make that decision than those that have the power. I think this has all been blown way, way out of proportion and all started by somebody who was 'banned' from the board ... LOL ... isn't that ironic?

 

[exile]

Yup, you are right exile. They are worth 800. See this link here. Thanks for catching that.

So it is 800? Thanks for the confirmation, Lisa... nothing else made sense, but I'm wrong often enough that I was unsure of whether my impressions were anywhere near the ballpark.

Well, I don't care so much if the system exists or not, but I don't see any problem at all if someone with the reputation of Exile, or any of the other high rep people, can add two 'pips' to someone's reputation. Who better to make that decision than those that have the power. I think this has all been blown way, way out of proportion and all started by somebody who was 'banned' from the board ... LOL ... isn't that ironic?

14 K, I appreciate the vote of confidence, very much... but maybe it's just as well. As time has gone on I've come to wonder about my judgment, and whether it should have the kind of impact that it does under the current setup. I've tried not to give rep frivolously, and I've given neg rep only a handful of times, when someone who was deserving of better treatment was dumped on in a purely destructive way; I hate that. But the more impact you have, the greater the chance that you're skewing things in a way that reflects badly—and unfairly so—on other people....

I think of the whole rep business this way...

You start as an unknown quantity, a new personality on the board, contributing your perspective on things to the eternal conversation. As time goes on, and your own thinking evolves, your views become clearer not just to the rest of the board, but to yourself: partly (maybe largely!) as a result of your discussions with other members, you begin to hammer out a set of views, analyses, and frameworks for thinking about a range of MA topics that have particular significance to you. People come to understand your take on these issues—so for me, for example, I've made my views fairly clear about the importance and role of kata, the crucial evidence and issues in the KMAs, the value of weight training and a few other particular issues that resonate with me—and you find yourself offering links to your previous posts, rather than restating whole chunks of evidence, reasoning and argument from scratch. As kidswarrior and Sukerkin have pointed out, you move into a somewhat different phase of your posting `career'; you've laid out your thinking on the things that you have something to say about, the places where you can contribute, and what you have to say subsequently is more in the nature of refinements and amplifications of points you've already made.

Academics find this happens in their scholarly careers as well: you stake out an area, make certain contributions, develop and defend them, and then go on to apply them more broadly and push them still further, but at a certain point, your colleagues know who you are and what you think. Short of completely reinventing yourself, you're not going to have the same impact on discourse in the fora you're interested in that you did when you were an unknown quantity... the best you can probably do under the circumstances is try to encourage others, people new to the board especially, to become seriously involved in the discussions and develop their own perspectives and analyses....

 

[Bob Hubbard]

I tried PMing a couple but never got a response.

Who. When.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Who. When.

The other thing is, in the scholastic world, when you publish your next "good" paper, a national holiday isn't declared, your name put on the new $100 bill, prime time tv interupted, and John Denver doesn't write a song for you.

When the Top-10 here rep you though, it's kinda close.

In the mean time, the new guy's getting the feeling his money aint worth nuthin.

 

[14 Kempo]

The other thing is, in the scholastic world, when you publish your next "good" paper, a national holiday isn't declared, your name put on the new $100 bill, prime time tv interupted, and John Denver doesn't write a song for you.

When the Top-10 here rep you though, it's kinda close.

In the mean time, the new guy's getting the feeling his money aint worth nuthin.

OK, John Denver will not right a song, however, for those of you that are not aware, there is a brand new double CD that was released on Nov 6th of John Denver, originally recorded during a tour of the former Russia. I know John's brother and two of his nephews.

As I stated, I personally don't care ... zero it all out, do away with it, I'll still post if I have something to say. I was just Pointing out some stuff that was sticking in my head, no big deal.

As far as the new guy, let them earn it, I say ... poor little fellas

 

[Bob Hubbard]

The 50-item display is great...but is it possible to somehow highlight/separate/number the last 10 people you repped to make it easy to see who cannot be re-repped again yet? This isn't usually an issue for me but was today! I'd just like to be able to quickly check so I know when not to bother trying again yet.

Might be an option once the upgrades are all in place. I -think- it'll let you page through them, but I don't remember exactly right now.




On a slightly different note, I've tweaked the post display a little bit, to make better use of the huge header area.

 

[Xue Sheng]

, and John Denver doesn't write a song for you.
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If he does now THAT would be news. I really don't think he can write songs anymore.