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Originally posted by Pakhet
Now now...he didn't corrupt us...YOU did :rofl:

Technicality Pakhet.
Wait until he tells you about grappling and kenpo and mirrors.
:eek:

I'm going to duck out of the room now. I'll come back in a few months when it might be safe.
:rofl:
 
Originally posted by cdhall
Technicality Pakhet.
Wait until he tells you about grappling and kenpo and mirrors.
:eek:


what *about* grappling and kenpo and mirrors???


or do I really not want to know?
 
Originally posted by Pakhet
what *about* grappling and kenpo and mirrors???


or do I really not want to know?

You probably don't want to know.
:eek:
I didn't understand the grappling part very well when he tried to explain it to me.

I'm going to try to shut up before I get into trouble, but I'm sure I'll be back later and live to regret it.
:(
 
Originally posted by cdhall
I didn't understand the grappling part very well when he tried to explain it to me.

I found some difficulty trying to grapple a grappler. As I've stated before hand positioning and body positioning is an absolute must or it means the difference of winning or losing (at least that's my view).
 
This is something that I have been thinking about and have not come to a satisfactory conclusion. In Kenpo, we do a lot of double factoring. If you have someone who is impaired on one side, is there some way to compensate for that? What would the ramifications be?
 
Originally posted by Seig
This is something that I have been thinking about and have not come to a satisfactory conclusion. In Kenpo, we do a lot of double factoring. If you have someone who is impaired on one side, is there some way to compensate for that? What would the ramifications be?

As an example.............I have a student that only has the use of only one arm (left). It was a situation from birth. There is no way to strengthen the "weak" or in his, case the "right" arm, which is virtually useless.

So .......... what do you do?..... well ...... what can you do.... give him another arm......NO...... so

You work the "good" arm overtime. LOL........ since the one arm is unable to operate or function ...... you then must use Mr. Parker's "tailoring" tool :) To show you the compensations would be the only way to explain each technique and we can't do that here .... it would take volumes. So you'll have to ask me when you see me........ LOL

:asian:
 
Originally posted by Seig
This is something that I have been thinking about and have not come to a satisfactory conclusion. In Kenpo, we do a lot of double factoring. If you have someone who is impaired on one side, is there some way to compensate for that? What would the ramifications be?

I don't want to pretend to have a better answer than Mr. C but perhaps my observation will lead to another question or answer.

If a Double-Factor is essentially a double-block like when you change angles in Short 1, then 50% of the reason to do it is for margin of error.

If you can not Double-Factor then you can still execute the primary block, parry or maneuver right?

So all that happens when you can not Double-Factor is you lose some margin of error.

As Mr. Liles demonstrated to us at camp once, Bruce Lee's attitude toward blocking a punch was to "hit first" because blocks are a waste of time. This is why most of our blocks are strikes anyway right?

So if someone can not Double-factor then they focus more on being quicker, angling, and hitting more precisely, correct?

I don't see this as anything to compensate "for." I see having only one arm as a situation that is sort of already accounted for in a Double-Factor which is really just insurance in the first place.

I hope that makes sense.
 
The double factor doesn't necessarily always mean to double block. It can be many different things at the same time. Obviously this is Mr. C's thread and he probably has a different/better answer than I but what I've seen and been taught there are others relating to the double factor.:asian:
 
Sorry CD, for not responding sooner, but was side tracked with the care of my mother and all that was going on at home for the past 2 months....... back on track now.........

Originally posted by cdhall
If a Double-Factor is essentially a double-block like when you change angles in Short 1, then 50% of the reason to do it is for margin of error.

It is NOT essentially a double block. It can be for many things.... in short one for example.... you have just completed the 1st block, as you step back for the next movement........ a couple of uses are; to cover or protect your centerline, as well as to position for opposing forces (in this case the hands do not cross). I don't understand what you are referring as "margin for error" in this case.

Originally posted by cdhall
If you can not Double-Factor then you can still execute the primary block, parry or maneuver right?

Yes

Originally posted by cdhall
So all that happens when you can not Double-Factor is you lose some margin of error.

NO

Originally posted by cdhall
As Mr. Liles demonstrated to us at camp once, Bruce Lee's attitude toward blocking a punch was to "hit first" because blocks are a waste of time. This is why most of our blocks are strikes anyway right?

Nope, only one view point or reason.

Originally posted by cdhall
So if someone can not Double-factor then they focus more on being quicker, angling, and hitting more precisely, correct?

Nope again, you should do all of those anyway!

Originally posted by cdhall
I don't see this as anything to compensate "for." I see having only one arm as a situation that is sort of already accounted for in a Double-Factor which is really just insurance in the first place.

If you say so.

Originally posted by cdhall
I hope this makes sense.

Not to me, but then again ...... I'm not your instructor. :)

Hang in there. The system is broader than you realize.

:asian:
 
Mr. C,
If this is still open as a Q and A, I had a couple of questions, I know youve explained why and when Tiger Crane came and went to me before, What about Book Set? When was it included in the curriculum and why? Why was it later removed? What did it teach?
Where does 2 man set have its origins? how did it manage to stay in most curriculums? What are some of the principles and things to be learned from it?

Brian Hunter
 
Brian, of course it is still an open Q & A for me. Ask away!!:asian:

Originally posted by brianhunter
You've explained why and when Tiger Crane came and went to me before, What about Book Set?
Brian Hunter

Same reason. It was not an Ed Parker set to begin with. At that time period there was an apparent need for more forms, sets, or training drills..... so "viola" a couple of interesting "drills" were utilized temporarily until more of "our own" unique forms took place.

Originally posted by brianhunter
When was it included in the curriculum and why? Why was it later removed? What did it teach?
Brian Hunter

Early 60's ~ added as an additional drill until more "Ed Parker sets or Forms were finalized" It was removed when it no longer was needed as Ed Parker added "his own" forms (early 70's), however, it can still be utilized as an option for fun. Like all forms it taught or had several uses. Coordination, stances, power, body alignment, discipline, footwork, etc. etc..

Originally posted by brianhunter
Where does 2 man set have its origins? how did it manage to stay in most curriculums? What are some of the principles and things to be learned from it?
Brian Hunter

Early 60's. It is a formal pre-arranged exercise much like a technique line but choreographed for 2 people. Strike ~ Block.... Strike ~ Block through out the set. It stayed because it was an Ed Parker set.

It teaches..........
1. How to increase your visualization processes in your previous
forms.
2. It builds an esprit de corps between two practitioners.
3. Synchronization of movement and timing between two
individuals.
4. Capitalizes on body maneuvers and positions.
5. Whatever angle your opponent chooses as a defense you
may choose as an offense, and vice-versa.
6. The flow from defensive moves to offensive moves or vice-
versa.
7. The application of rotational momentum combined with
Marriage of Gravity while defending.
8. The advantageous use of angle changes to ride the force of
your opponent's attacks.
9. Upper and Lower Case positional checks.
10. Use of specialized weapons.
11. Control Manipulation to enhance the effects of opposing
forces.
12. Sliding checks combined with offensive moves.
13. Specialized blocks that are normally thought of as strikes.
14. Residual action combining the flow from a block into a strike.
15. Reinforces the importance of gauging distance and how it will
effect the timing and choice of movements.
16. The prolonged application of continuous movement.
17. Reinforces the importance of being able to defend and/or
attack from the inside, outside, above, or below your
opponent's weapons.
18. Stresses the value of understanding the Second Point of
View.
19. The importance of continual transition, and the exercising of
its use.
20. others.........

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Thank you, Mr. C. I called twice. I'm sure you got the messages. I hope all is better now that you are back.

My question then is "What is a Double Factor" and "What/where are 1-2 examples of it?"

Thank you.
:asian:
 
Originally posted by Michael Billings
This is still my favorite thread. Where else can I get so much knowledge for the cost. I value it more than you think.-Michael

LOL, Thanks. I am considering a pay per ask format.....:rofl:

:asian:
 
Originally posted by Goldendragon7
LOL, Thanks. I am considering a pay per ask format.....:rofl:

:asian:

Set up a paypal account!! I know a few who would be glad to donate! Ive learned a lot from you!
 
Originally posted by cdhall
My question is "What is a Double Factor"?

It entails utilizing duel movements to defend yourself. These moves can incorporate any combinations of blocks, parries, and checks. It ALSO refers to sophisticated moves that are dually defensive and offensive and "reverse motion" is an integral part.

Originally posted by cdhall
"What/where are 1-2 examples of it?"

As discussed before..... in short form 1, for example.... you have just completed the 1st block, as you step back for the next movement........ a couple of uses are; to cover or protect your centerline, as well as to position for opposing forces (in this case the hands do not cross). However, during the next move, you step back with your right foot as you cover with the right hand (positional check), when you pivot (clockwise) and deliver a left inward block the right hand drops down to cover the groin as it returns on its path back to the cocked position at your side. During this same execution an additional double factor is that it is in sync with the inward block which creates a stronger block through the gain of opposing forces.

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