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[Rainman]

A VERTICAL 4 FINGER THRUST TO THE SOLAR PLEXUS ON THE ON THE THIRD MOVE

Fourth move
1. doulbe handswords to the attacking arm
2. rt. out ward handsword to the neck
3 left 4 finger thrust to the eyes
4. right uppercut to the solar plexus, or xyphoid process- You could potentially break your fingers if not conditioned is probably why most don't use the spear hand strike these days. Potentially lethal that is for sure though
5. move up the circle and executle a left out ward handsword to the left side of the neck.
6. right inward diaganally downward handsword to back of neck.

So six open hand strikes one closed if you do it that way otherwise 7 open hand strikes... It is my understanding the tek was originally called slicing the sun and ended with the strike to the solar plexus with a spearhand. Later changed to five swords with 2 additional strikes + extension.

 

[Roland]

And that even the Inward bock was done open handed.



Maybe that was just another variation, or a different technique all together.

 

[kenpokid]

Hi

I passed my black belt and i know i have a long way to go. But i think you are doing a great job as you are not only helping the beginners with their questions you are helping people like me. You are helping me learn about questions that i might get asked by the people i get to teach.
I was wondering as it was mentioned was do you know short form 4 and if so do you have a written version as i would like to know what it is as i knew there was one but it is not taught in my system.

Well thanks

 

[Scott Bonner]

From what I've heard, there are many Short 4 forms, as lots of people have felt the need for easing students into Form 4, but there is no "official" short 4.

Peace,
Scott

 

[kenpo3631]

The opinions of the poster do not reflect anyone elses thoughts other than the poster.....

It is my understanding that Five Swords was originally taught with the finger poke following the outward handsword to the neck.

Later... along came Jim Mitchell. I beleive Mr. Mitchell inputted the heelpalm strike. So it became as the heelpalm strike drove the opponents head back the fingers extended into his eyes.

I feel that because Mr. Parker encouraged experimentation he allowed it to be taught that way. He must have approved in some way b/c I have seen many do it that way.

I personally don't do the heelpalm, I use the finger poke. If you heelpalm the chin your opponent, his head is tilted back and the eye poke is lost. I do however teach my kid students to do a heelpalm, for safety and control issues. I also show the adults initially with a heelpalm until their control becomes better , than we drop it and go with the finger poke.

:asian:

 

[Goldendragon7]

I have always done a eye shot........

Mitchell had nothing to do with it.

In fact, after the eye shot Mr. Parker showed me a minor insert that I thought was cool which was an immediate heelpalm (downward) with the left (retracting) hand while the right uppercut punch was in route.

I thought that was cool.....

:asian:

 

[jeffkyle]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

I have always done a eye shot........

Mitchell had nothing to do with it.

In fact, after the eye shot Mr. Parker showed me a minor insert that I thought was cool which was an immediate heelpalm (downward) with the left (retracting) hand while the right uppercut punch was in route.

I thought that was cool.....

:asian:

I agree! That is cool!!

 

[Goldendragon7]

if not..... lets hear from you.....

:asian:

 

[kenpo3631]

I have always done a eye shot........Mitchell had nothing to do with it.

Hmmm, I have seen tapes with Mr. Parker narrating step by step as Mitchell did all the techniques and the heel palm was in there.

:asian:

 

[Goldendragon7]

I may have the very same tape..... it was given to me by Mr. Parker, but I was not to follow it verbatim. He showed me the way I explained above, and thats how I still do it. I have seen many Tracy guys do that move that way.

:asian:

 

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

I may have the very same tape..... it was given to me by Mr. Parker, but I was not to follow it verbatim. He showed me the way I explained above, and thats how I still do it. I have seen many Tracy guys do that move that way.

:asian:

About time you mentioned me!:rofl:

 

[Klondike93]

Did Mr. Parker ever strap on the gloves and do some sparring with you guys?



:asian:

 

[Goldendragon7]

he never wore golves........ LOL it was pain pain and more pain.....

:asian:

 

[Seig]

Originally posted by Goldendragon7

he never wore golves........ LOL it was pain pain and more pain.....

:asian:

He must have had hands like iron, beating on all those thick skulls

 

[Goldendragon7]

Hot Iron....... it stings........


:asian:

 

[kenpokid]

Is short form 4 worth learning and is it good, Do you know where i can get a couple of the form written up or even on video.

 

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by kenpokid

Is short form 4 worth learning and is it good, Do you know where i can get a couple of the form written up or even on video.

The Tracy's have the form on video.

 

[Goldendragon7]

 

[kenpo3631]

Maybe this can get you thinking...Short 4

 

[Goldendragon7]

just like short 5 and 6 as well.
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