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this thread has so much fail its a win lol
I get sick of people trying to tell me what i have to do though. they can take the small cars and shove them, I wont drive them, its either motorcycles or SuVs for me, although I do like some of the newer crossovers.
I didnt see one fact listed in this thread by either side so far that does not have completely opposite "evidence" refuting it... from the small cars being the worst, to the big ones being the worst, to oil being limited, to anything i read.
it is humorous though, other then those know it alls who keep trying to tell me i have to drive what they think i have to drive. They just disgust me. I dont tell you how to chose what you drive, where you live, or how you live as long as you are not threatening my way of life. My driving a big car doesnt threaten your way of life, I pay more then my share of taxes because of it too, so I see no problem there

I actually agree with this. Is anyone telling you to drive a small car?
 
Bjj I gave you the way to find the data and from what you pointed to I am correct. Smaller cars are more dangerous in collisions, did I say roll overs?

I think that a large part of this is that small cars are more dangerous to their occupants when they are run over by gargantuan SuV's that most people don't actually need :p. We call them 'Chelsea Tractors' over here in Blighty and they are used by middle-class mums to take little Johnny to school (as clearly his poor legs are atrophied so he can't walk!).

I have to keep tight lipped on these matters tho' as I'm something of a petrol-head and my favourite cars might not be elephantine Ute's but they are anything but fuel efficient :o.
 
Wow, bjj, you got me. I'm sorry I did not specifically state head on collisions when I made my remark about traffic deaths. I am truly ashamed and will hang my head. How can I ever atone for my misdeed.
 
Being a little less snide would be a start ...
 
To be honest up front, these days my everyday driver is a Cadillac STS. V-8 gas hog monster. Love it. My Porsche is more fuel efficient, but not exactly what you'd call a gas sippper-plus, it's just not comfortable for my somewhat older 6'2" frame anymore.My bikes and some of my other cars are fuel efficient-but those cars are even less comfortable, and bikes? Let's jsut say that's no more about transportation than an MG is....:lol:

Rita, that's the wife, drives a truck. Let's not even go there.:lfao:

With all that said, the offshore oil reserves of the U.S. may be enough to fuel our needs for 11 years. Or less. No one's really sure-those are estimates, but 11 years seems to be the most optimistic estimate available today. It could be more, but that seems to be doubtful. If it is 11 years, then that begs the question -what does that even mean, exactly, "begs the question?" It's just one of those things we say that everyone understands even though it makes no sense....:lol: -anyway, it makes us ask the question of what we'd do when those 11 years were up? (11 years that are more like 30, when you include the time required to actually set up the rigs, do the drilling, extract ande transport the oil, but by then we'll all be riding bicycles...._

Anyway.....

As an aside, if someone can solve the problem of rectifying electricity down from billions of Hz to a useable frequency, we'll all be quids-in when it comes to power:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/02/infrared-solar-panels-even-work-at-night-but-cant-output-energ/

How annoying is that?! To have a pretty good answer to the planet's consumer energy needs and not be able to access it because the frequency is too high!

I know about this. The problem shouldn't be insurmountable.....by the time my grandkids are having kids, maybe....:lfao:
Comparisons of U.S nuclear power with Chernobyl are somewhat misleading-it was a different sort of technology, and one prone to exactly the kind of problem they encountered-especially from the deliberate "experiment" that led to it. Stupid, really. While the waste problem is a real issue, we'll have no choice in the years to come but to exploit this technology.

As for offshore oil-or any oil-our first and best choice is to free ourselves of it as soon and as much as we can. It's a finite resource that will run out-regardless of where it comes from.
 
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Wow, bjj, you got me. I'm sorry I did not specifically state head on collisions when I made my remark about traffic deaths. I am truly ashamed and will hang my head. How can I ever atone for my misdeed.
I forgive you. Don't hang your head. Instead, try writing what you actually mean, and then taking responsibility for your own words later. All I have to react to are your words. If you don't mean what you write, that makes it exceedingly difficult to communicate with you.
 
Folks,

Let's recall that, while we do allow a bit more heat here in The Study, the basic rules of MT still apply. Keep it polite and drop the snideness and sniping.
 
Granfire, I believe I do. I am grateful for your forgiveness bjj, my day is now complete and I can once again walk with my head held high. The shame was so unbearable, thank you, thank you for your infinite patience and wisdom for one as lowly as myself bjj. Yes, jks199, I agree, they probably could do a little less sniping.
 
I drive a Prius. I'd drive a Tesla but can't afford it yet.
 
Yes people are saying it all the time.
my understanding of granfires post was exactly that as well.
Ultimately, I don't get it. If you're driving a big car and it works for you, I don't care at all one way or the other.

Personally, I think that as gas prices go up and the USA begins to get a sense of how much it really costs (gas has always been much more expensive everywhere else), creeping up towards $4 or even $5 per gallon in the next few years, everyone's going to be looking at ways to become more efficient. But that said, fuel efficient doesn't necessarily equate to small cars anymore.

There are several issues that get mixed together when discussing cars. For some reason "fuel efficient" tends to lead to a debate about small cars vs big cars. It also tends to get framed in terms of tree huggers vs greedy capitalist pigs. I don't necessarily agree.

For example, Nissan took a lot of heat for suggesting a leather upgrade for upholstery. They have used recycled bottles and such for the interior, and in my opinion, you can tell. I would probably have paid for leather seats. It's durable, easy to maintain and I just like it. I have no problem wearing leather, eating steak or using mink oil on my boots (although I'm a proponent of free range, etc). I don't see animal rights being linked necessarily to my wanting to drive an EV.

In the same way, if I needed (or wanted) a truck, I'd look for fuel efficient trucks.
 
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