Matt Stone
Master of Arts
I'll certainly look into what is being said on that other board, however I am looking to hear what you have to say on the issue...
Gambarimasu.
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Gambarimasu.
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Kirk
Guest
Definitely ... but you should read his link anyway, it's pretty
damned f unny!
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bob919
Guest
the other guy could be blinded for life over a drunken brawl, your friend was too vicsious his life was hardly in danger but digging a thumb into an eyeball is one of those hings that should only be used if your life is in danger which his was not
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bob919
Guest
amen brother i basically trianed myself but i am damn good (modest too)
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Jill666
Guest
How would he know that? A stranger has just attacked him. I stand by my statement.
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soccer50
Guest
When Fighting a some foo on the street, you dont know how many fights hes gotten into, what he can do, or the way he fights. The only thing to expect is a barrage of punches.
While fighting a martial artist, depending on what system your challeging,and even though people have different strategies youll have a vague idea of what to expect. you know that MAist have control.
But since the nature of street fighting is so violent, you'll stand a better chance fighting MAist than street fighters. Although MA has lots of techniques, the oppurtunity to apply those techniques are low
While fighting a martial artist, depending on what system your challeging,and even though people have different strategies youll have a vague idea of what to expect. you know that MAist have control.
But since the nature of street fighting is so violent, you'll stand a better chance fighting MAist than street fighters. Although MA has lots of techniques, the oppurtunity to apply those techniques are low
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soccer50
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this thread was meant as a reply to "Less worryed to fight martial artist then street fighter. ", i clicked the wrong button...please disable this admins. thanks
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soccer50
Guest
On the contrary
When Fighting a someone on the street, you dont know how many fights hes gotten into, what he can do, or the way he fights. The only thing to expect is a barrage of punches.
While fighting a martial artist, depending on what system your challeging,and even though people have different strategies youll have a vague idea of what to expect. you know that MAist have control.
But since the nature of street fighting is so violent, you'll stand a better chance fighting MAist than street fighters. Although MA has lots of techniques, the oppurtunity to apply those techniques are low
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MartialArtist
Guest
If you remember, I was also a member there... Until I got fed up with the 10-year old kids who thought they were invincible after some MMA training.
The forum is basically TMA bashing based on a lot of people's limited experience. The website itself is pretty funny however.
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MartialArtist
Guest
What are you talking about?
You don't seem to understand, you apply certain techniques to the situation. Once you become proficient, you naturally apply the move that comes to you, and don't talk about how this move is for this situation, while this move is for that situation. That rarely works in a street fight, most of it is instinctive and reflexive. You don't think about it, it just comes to you. You transaction from one thing to another, it's not whether the oppourtunity to apply X technique for X situation.
Some moves were designed for that purpose, but those are rarely used in combat. Simpler moves can be applied to almost any situation.
Another thing, what makes a very skilled fighter is that HE CONTROLS the situation and OPENS UP oppurtunities himself.
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KenpoDragon
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MartialArtist
Guest
You won with channeling your chi/ki and flying in the air throwing ninja stars.
Yes, I agree with you.
I can jab anyone in most situations. I can't do a 540 roundhouse in most situations. If I wanted to do a 540, I would have to set it up. It's like in wrestling, you can't shoot without setting up. If you won't change the sitaution to your liking, then you're pretty much stuck and then you wouldn't be apply the technique of course, but that's elementary, a 6 year old wrestler knows how to set things up. But again, this is a hypothetical situation, I probably wouldn't use a 540 roundhouse unless I wanted to show off KO move - which means rarely.
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believer
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let me tell you guys this story and hopefully it will clear things up. Many of you will probably not believe my story, because you think that just because you are martial artists you can defeat anybody in a fist fight. But, i will say my story anyway and it is VERY, VERY true.
Im just starting college and have recently been interested in
tae-kwon-do. Ive just started a month ago. My instructor is a man from Korea who is considered probably the best instuctor in my region. You do not wanna mess with this guy!!!! In this class we do FULL contact sparring. My instructor has kind of has a sick way of pitting the higher ranked people against a lower ranked person such as me (still white belt).
Before tae-kwon-do I had a lot of wrestling experience in high school, and have also researched greek and russian styles of wrestiling and practiced and honed my skills of wrestling at home. After about a week, my instructor pit me against a brown belt who was about to recieve his 1st degree black belt. Why he did this??? I dont know. Keep in mind this is a very tough instuctor so a brown belt in his class is very skilled. He was about my age and my weight, (i might have been just a little heavier). Have you ever felt a Side kick in FULL contact sparring?! Even with the gear, it hurts, bad!!! Have you ever felt it multiple times??!! I guarantee you that you have a lot to be afraid of when fighting a martial artist. And I have never felt such pain in my entire life.
BUT...... somthing else happened. Using what I've learned from wrestling, I grappled him and put him into a lock in a way where he could barely move his body, then I put pressure on his arm in such a way where i could break it if i wanted to, i learned this from wrestling. My point, without hardly any tae-kwon-do experience I successfully defeated a very skilled martial artist. My instuctor got so mad at me for using what he considered a barbaric technique (y? cause it doesnt look pretty?), and told me never to fight like that again.
There is no doubt in my mind that martial artists are very very dangerous, but they arent invlunerable. Am I more afraid of a martial artist then a street fighter?? I dont know. Many of you probably dont consider wrestling a martial art, so ill just pretend it is not, and say that it is possible to defeat a martial artist without martial arts. And that a street fighter is just as dangerous.
(ps. i am still taking tae-kwon-do in the same class)
Im just starting college and have recently been interested in
tae-kwon-do. Ive just started a month ago. My instructor is a man from Korea who is considered probably the best instuctor in my region. You do not wanna mess with this guy!!!! In this class we do FULL contact sparring. My instructor has kind of has a sick way of pitting the higher ranked people against a lower ranked person such as me (still white belt).
Before tae-kwon-do I had a lot of wrestling experience in high school, and have also researched greek and russian styles of wrestiling and practiced and honed my skills of wrestling at home. After about a week, my instructor pit me against a brown belt who was about to recieve his 1st degree black belt. Why he did this??? I dont know. Keep in mind this is a very tough instuctor so a brown belt in his class is very skilled. He was about my age and my weight, (i might have been just a little heavier). Have you ever felt a Side kick in FULL contact sparring?! Even with the gear, it hurts, bad!!! Have you ever felt it multiple times??!! I guarantee you that you have a lot to be afraid of when fighting a martial artist. And I have never felt such pain in my entire life.
BUT...... somthing else happened. Using what I've learned from wrestling, I grappled him and put him into a lock in a way where he could barely move his body, then I put pressure on his arm in such a way where i could break it if i wanted to, i learned this from wrestling. My point, without hardly any tae-kwon-do experience I successfully defeated a very skilled martial artist. My instuctor got so mad at me for using what he considered a barbaric technique (y? cause it doesnt look pretty?), and told me never to fight like that again.
There is no doubt in my mind that martial artists are very very dangerous, but they arent invlunerable. Am I more afraid of a martial artist then a street fighter?? I dont know. Many of you probably dont consider wrestling a martial art, so ill just pretend it is not, and say that it is possible to defeat a martial artist without martial arts. And that a street fighter is just as dangerous.
(ps. i am still taking tae-kwon-do in the same class)
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KenpoDragon
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You said it yourself, you had prior wrestling training. Even though some people may not view wrestling as a martial art, I do. Wrestling teaches throws, hold downs, or pins, and some locks. This is similar to Jujutsu or Hapkido, or Judo. Although a watered down version, still effective against some styles. If you care to research the true backrounds of wrestling you will find some interesting stuff. Wrestling may very well be the oldest of the martial arts. After all even a kid with no training, can still tackle you and try and put you on your back. Trust me, my niece does it all the time to me, she starts to run at me from about 10 feet away and just slams into me. Doesn't put me down, because I'm a lot bigger than her, but it probably would put a kid her size down. Wrestling use to be a very vicious art, many opponent's would end up crippled or dead. Do some research and you'll have a better idea of what I mean.
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Marginal
Senior Master
Well, the real Bullshido(tm) answer would be of course, that eye gouging doesn't work at all and that this never happened because eye gouging doesn't ever work.
(I don't beleive this personally, but I can't resist poking fun at the questionable power of the MMA fanboy's unshakable circular reasoning.)
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MartialArtist
Guest
Whoever said wrestling wasn't a martial art needs to get his head knocked in.
ROFL at the "didn't look pretty", I've seen a lot of instructors like that. However, my instructors had no pity when they put people in choke holds and submission moves, and that was TKD.
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J-kid
Guest
I believe that you could proble take your instructer with wrestling.
Who cares if its pritty or not just as long as it get the job done.
Who cares if its pritty or not just as long as it get the job done.
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soccer50
Guest
From the replys to my post, I just realized I misunderstood the original thread. I thought Judo-Kid was refering to a MA match with rules as opposed to all out street fighting. As for the techniques, I was refering to the if/then techniques. Not Kicking or punching techniques.
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believer
Guest
l've just recently been interested in Asian Martial Arts. I dont know much about Eastern Wrestling, most wrestling I learned is of the West (mostly studied ones of Greek, German, or slavic Origins, high school wrestling i believe is a fusion of many western wrestling styles, i could be wrong), is it just as old as kungfu?? Can someone tell me the difference between eastern and western wrestling???
as for defeating my instructor, i seriously doubt i can. he is much older and very skilled in his art
as for defeating my instructor, i seriously doubt i can. he is much older and very skilled in his art
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