Zenjael
Purple Belt
Do you think the two different sword techniques could be synthesized? I do.
Jian and Katana
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Chris Parker
Grandmaster
Assuming you actually mean synthesised.. actually, I have no idea what you mean by that. It doesn't make any sense. So probably, the answer will be no.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
I'm guessing it is the ": to combine (things) in order to make something new" definition.
And since there are so many different Jian forms and the basic way to hold each is different as is the way you attack and defend I do not think they can be and do either weapon justice. But then I have very little experience with a katana so maybe I am wrong
Agreed. The answer is no. They are completely different animals. The only thing similar is they're both made of metal & used for their designed purpose.
If you had said miao dao or da dao or the like... you might've garnered some commentary on similarities & possible usage. But not gim & katana.
If you had said miao dao or da dao or the like... you might've garnered some commentary on similarities & possible usage. But not gim & katana.
oaktree
Master of Arts
As some one who does chen taiji jian and
Katori shinto ryu 100% no.
The swords are way different.
The holding and handling way different.
The application are way different.
The footwork the weight the theory
Are all different.
But there are some similarities but those are minor
Such as no baseball bat grips, and not over extending yourself
You loose balance.
I would be curious to know why you think so
And which Japanese sword art and jian form
Do think merged well maybe something i missed.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
could you hold one sword and perform the techniques of the other? sure. wouldn't be optimal tho. kinda jamming a square peg into a round hole. Could you be dangerous to someone? even kill someone that way? sure. But that doesn't mean you are using the weapon in the way it was really designed for optimal performance.
I do not work with a Jian but have to agree here with everyone else that they seem to different!
Why do you think that?
oaktree
Master of Arts
The form Alex has created is available on
YouTube. It looks like someone twirling a sword around.
It looks like someone who has had no formal
Sword training in either cma sword arts or jma sword.
YouTube. It looks like someone twirling a sword around.
It looks like someone who has had no formal
Sword training in either cma sword arts or jma sword.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
got a link?
oaktree
Master of Arts
https://www.facebook.com/alexander.borschel.7?ref=tn_tnmn
Or type his name on YouTube
Or type his name on YouTube
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Couldn't find it
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
ok I saw it. Looks like Modern Wushu jian and dao done with a katana.
Maybe he watched Six String Samurai? Fun movie, that's what Jeff Falcon did in that movie, but ya know, it's a movie. Made for entertainment, not authentic martial arts.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
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I have very little sword experience but it does contain elements that I was instructed are very wrong, mainly in the wrist positioning.
:asian:
Yep... saw that too... Glad somebody else said it.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
interesting....could just ad easily do that with a Claymore...but it is still not Sian and Katana
Can you say Haidong Gumdo, it looks closer to that from what little I know of Haidong Gumdo
Can you say Haidong Gumdo, it looks closer to that from what little I know of Haidong Gumdo
Chris Parker
Grandmaster
What the creeping hell is that?
Er… mainly in everything… sword positioning, reiho, grip, angle of the blade, power generation, range, movement… it's all just a really bad example of ways to lose your sword followed closely by your limbs or life. Very closely. Probably in the same moment, if the other guy isn't just doubled over laughing…
Ha, I haven't started yet…
Er… no… complete fantasy. Even more than Haidong Gumdo…
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Any Art Form can be synthesized, if you watch it enough. BUT, a master has skill opposed to the actual form itself and the understanding of it. He can show you the holes in the master plan.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Didn't think it was Haidong Gumdo, just thought it looked more like Haidong Gumdo to me that anything Jian based.
