How Wing Chun is supposed to look...in my book

[Mephisto]

Mephisto funny post but I am asking a serious question about training practices and the conditioning of the hands

Seriously, start a thread. That's a huge and interesting topic that encompasses many martial arts. All you're gonna get from this group is recommendations to soak your hands in cocoa butter and use a nice apricot scrub, lol.

 

[Vajramusti]

Mephisto funny post but I am asking a serious question about training practices and the conditioning of the hands

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The thread has taken some strange turns. But-
I use dit da jow for iron palm bag work.
When the opportunity is there a well trained wing chun person can do many things including throw, qinna, breaking ,
hitting and redirecting and controlling.

 

[tshadowchaser]

started that thread in General area
Vajramusti thanks for your post here

 

[Danny T]

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The thread has taken some strange turns. But-
I use dit da jow for iron palm bag work.
When the opportunity is there a well trained wing chun person can do many things including throw, qinna, breaking ,
hitting and redirecting and controlling.

Yep!
Though not the emphasis of our training, we do train all of that and more.
I find it a bit strange that others in the WC community don't.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

so do WC people usually train throws as in post 392?

This WC guy knows how to throw. From the way that he did his "belt cracking (1.53 - 2.10)" training in the same clip (I don't think Judo guys, or western wrestlers do "belt cracking" training), he had cross trained the Shuai-Chiao (Chinese wrestling) system. From the way that he did his "belt cracking", I can even tell that he trained the Beijing (or Tianjing) branch of the Shuai-Chiao system.

 

[Jake104]

You have to watch the boats and fishermen though when you spar with piers.


Sorry, I couldn't resist it, I can resist anything but temptation......................

Remember I'm a pictures kind of reader. Proper grammar shouldn't be expected from me. I see earlier in this thread I put def instead of deaf. Like def jam or def leppard. Lol. I fixed it. I try and go through and fix my mistakes. You'll learn to not expect much from me here! Haha!

 

[Transk53]

so do WC people usually train throws as in post 392?
when training in WC do you use ointments to help harden the hands or in helping blood flow after a hard wooden dummy workout?

No. Just hit the sand bag, or wall bag. The skin learns eventually. Of course not just confined to Wing Chun as in my case. Merry Christmas

 

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[drop bear]

In my personal experience the way you carry yourself really makes the difference. There have been numerous times when someone tries to start something with me. I usually only have to walk up give them that look. I don't even really say much. They sense my energy and realize I'm not a punk.

Just recently I was in Vegas and a group of us were walking through the casino. My brother accidentally bumped some guy. He was with a large group . he was like " hey say sorry" so my brother who isn't a confrontational guy apologized right away. He then was like" that's what I thought" so I turned around and he goes "easy there tough guy". So I walked right up to his group by myself and got in his face and just said " that's my brother you better watch it". I could see the fear in his eyes. He tried to play it off and not loose face. I was ready to go. I feel real comfortable close range so I was on guard. Nothing happened. Cause loud mouths like that are usually are all bark no bite.

have you tested your ability to stop a sucker punch from that position? Which i call the gunfighter.

 

[Jake104]

have you tested your ability to stop a sucker punch from that position? Which i call the gunfighter.

Yes. First let me say I have been sucker punched more than once. So I have some experience. I use to not allow anyone in my space. That was one of my main rules and still is depending on the situation. Meaning you come into my space in an aggressive threatening manner. I hit you once you're in range. But recently I have been training the clinch range no contact. If I'm close and I sense anything. I'm coming in with a punch. So I feel more comfortable that close now.

I basically train this by letting my training partner who isn't a WC'r attack me however he chooses and I react. Usually as he attacks I attack with my whole structure connected to a punch. This throws him off balance and really takes the power out of what ever he tries. I don't block. One example. He tried a low high attact to my throat. Once he moved. I moved. He barely touched my throat as he was flying backward. He's 230lbs I'm 190lbs. I connected with a open palm strike face push. He's my friend. So I wasn't trying to hurt him. I also believe reading a person is very important. There eyes, voice, if they look away or back for asecond. They' re probably getting ready to throw a SP. Be aware of the little things.

I probably mentioned this before, but my first Wing Chun Sifu gave me some good advice back when I first started. He said " you can't block everything. You may block the first or second hit. But A good boxer/striker will eventually overwhelm you with strikes. So punch punch punch!. You are probably going to get hit in a fight. If you don't like to get hit, don't fight". Now in a self defense situation you may not have a choice. But the point is, trying to block everything doesn't aways work.

 

[geezer]

Doesn't mean ground fighting is not effective in a street fight. Just means kicking someone in the head while they are on the ground is a staple of western street fighting.

Jake, imagine the evolutionary response if this brutal trend continues over the long term:

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140209162228/starwars/images/5/50/Darth_Maul_profile.png

--Spikes to discourage head-kicking, black and red coloration to disguise and conceal any bruising so as not to show weakness or injury, and a nasty, get-even-at-all-costs temperament. BTW have you checked lately for any budding horns???

 

[Transk53]

Must have missed that one, on the ground? Must part of a different crowd