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"To be is to do."-Descartes "To do is to be."-Nietsche "Scooby dooby do"-Sinatra "Yabba dabba do"-Flintstone.
"To be is to do."-Descartes "To do is to be."-Nietsche "Scooby dooby do"-Sinatra "Yabba dabba do"-Flintstone.
Only sorta......"To be is to do" is actually Socrates, not Descartes. "To do is to be" is actually Sartre, not Nietzche-which I spelled wrong....on purpose......and at the end of "Strangers in the Night," Frank, who wasn't at all happy with the song or his scat, mimicked himself with "Scoobly dooby doo..." though that can only be heard on some recordings and out takes......"Scooby dooby do" was Hanna-Barbera influenced by Sinatra. The Chairman Of The Board scatted "Dooby dooby do" when he sang Strangers In The Night
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You are welcome.Thank you Himura for your writing.I feel like I'm actually having a discussion now.
Ok. I donĀt really think thatĀs necessary but, Iunderstand.I quote myself out of fear in the future being blamedfor taking credit for things I do not duly deserve, when in actuality thosethings originated with me. That wasn't my motive in this, I just hoped by beingcompletely honest and transparent it might help others feel comfortable to doso as well. Being earnest on the internet can be intimidating for some.
Thank you for quoting your teachers. What I say inmartial arts being composed of each style, but greater than any, is akin to, ifyou excuse me for waning philosophical, the same way what we consider realityto be 'real' when it is actually composed subjectively by each of ourindividual experiences. And illusions, as it is.
To say that studying one style is limiting is like sayingthat studying only cardiology is limiting and doctors should study as much aspossible. The problem is that people canĀt retain everything they try to learn,there is only so much we can recall and without specializations (or specificschools of thought) you lose something unique and valuable by trying togeneralize everything. You end up limiting unique experiences by trying toforce things into a group to which they do not belong.To only train in one style, thinking it is the only waytoward betterment, is limiting oneself. For example, when I ask another TKDpractitioner what style they use, 9/10 ill hear WTF or ITF TKd, when the answerI am looking for is whether they practice Chang Moo Kwan, Chung Do Kwan, MooDuk Kwan, etc.
OK, but ask a karateka how different his karate is fromanother karate system and while he will admit to similarities, he would suresay that there are important differences and the two systems should not bemixed.But if what is considered 'Tae Kwon Do' is composed ofthese different styles, or kwans, and each of these kwans is a differentexpression of what we would call Tae Kwon Do in general, but none better thanthe other, each effective, than is it not a valid argument that the differencesbetween the arts is really something relative. I have practiced in a hall wherehundreds trained, and all of us were doing tang soo do, and Chung Do Kwan,respectively. Yet we all looked different.
Equal in what way? Is an apple equal to an orange? Today,many people practice different martial arts for similar reasons, but eachmartial art was developed for its own unique reason and some are better suitedthan others for one thing while others are better at something else.I feel each Martial Art is equal to the other, as martialarts is not about fighting, but rather balance in life, and thereby keepingbalance means knowing when to use your art.
I enjoy quotes, and since this is the largest forum for martial arts, it seems according that perhaps it contain this. I figure if everyone posts their favorite quote related to martial arts, and a favorite quote from a martial arts teacher of theirs, this will be something worth time and again. If possible, please give credit for who said it ^^. If you'd like to include your own, feel free, but give credit where due
I'll go first to kick it off.
ĀThe true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things.Ā
-Miyamoto Miyazashi
ĀIf you punch your enemy and he isn't knocked out, you aren't punch hard enough.Ā
-Master Fazel Khan
ĀEvery martial art is but a facet of the greater gem of what the arts represent. If you only look at it one way, how can you ever really claim to see its complete depth?Ā
-Myself
@Chris, you don't have to agree with my teacher's quote. But I do. If you punch someone and they don't go down when your life is in danger, you have not trained your punch well enough.
To only train in one style, thinking it is the only way toward betterment, is limiting oneself. For example, when I ask another TKD practitioner what style they use, 9/10 ill hear WTF or ITF TKd, when the answer I am looking for is whether they practice Chang Moo Kwan, Chung Do Kwan, Moo Duk Kwan, etc.
But if what is considered 'Tae Kwon Do' is composed of these different styles, or kwans, and each of these kwans is a different expression of what we would call Tae Kwon Do in general, but none better than the other, each effective, than is it not a valid argument that the differences between the arts is really something relative. I have practiced in a hall where hundreds trained, and all of us were doing tang soo do, and Chung Do Kwan, respectively. Yet we all looked different.
I feel each Martial Art is equal to the other, as martial arts is not about fighting, but rather balance in life, and thereby keeping balance means knowing when to use your art.
If people do not enjoy the thread, it is neither here nor there.
And ah, my quote is just a reiteration from the book of 5 rings. There is no single 'correct' style, and every style represents martial arts as a whole.
As with anyone, we are all different in person than we come across online. And yes, scholasticism, as in of scholarly notation or worth in being recognized. And how I posted would be acceptable at most Universities. Certainly George Mason where I attend, which is why I included and put an emphasis on providing the source. All I did was cite where the quote came from, in the most simple way to cite someone. I didn't post my quote on top, I only supplied that section in this post out of the presumative thinking that others might do the same, yet guise it as someone else. I've seen it often enough on other boards, in other topics to take it into account.
Miyamoto Musashi went by many names. Including Miyazashi, Shinmen, and Bennosuke among many, many others. I just chose to have him quoted in an alternative form of his name. Just pointing that out to the person who pointed out I listed his name incorrectly.
@Chris, you don't have to agree with my teacher's quote. But I do. If you punch someone and they don't go down when your life is in danger, you have not trained your punch well enough.
Or do you want to continually risk yourself by having to hit them again and again to nullify the situation, if that is the only choice available. That was Master Khan's point. If when you use your technique, and they aren't defeated, you have not trained it well enough for the situation you are attempting to apply it to.
I quote myself out of fear in the future being blamed for taking credit for things I do not duly deserve, when in actuality those things originated with me. That wasn't my motive in this, I just hoped by being completely honest and transparent it might help others feel comfortable to do so as well. Being earnest on the internet can be intimidating for some.
Thank you for quoting your teachers. What I say in martial arts being composed of each style, but greater than any, is akin to, if you excuse me for waning philosophical, the same way what we consider reality to be 'real' when it is actually composed subjectively by each of our individual experiences. And illusions, as it is.
To only train in one style, thinking it is the only way toward betterment, is limiting oneself. For example, when I ask another TKD practitioner what style they use, 9/10 ill hear WTF or ITF TKd, when the answer I am looking for is whether they practice Chang Moo Kwan, Chung Do Kwan, Moo Duk Kwan, etc.
But if what is considered 'Tae Kwon Do' is composed of these different styles, or kwans, and each of these kwans is a different expression of what we would call Tae Kwon Do in general, but none better than the other, each effective, than is it not a valid argument that the differences between the arts is really something relative. I have practiced in a hall where hundreds trained, and all of us were doing tang soo do, and Chung Do Kwan, respectively. Yet we all looked different.
I feel each Martial Art is equal to the other, as martial arts is not about fighting, but rather balance in life, and thereby keeping balance means knowing when to use your art.
As for citing his name as Miyazashi,
And wikipedia also cites his name as such. I could dig deeper, but it is probably the case that musashi and miyazaki are poor translations in both cases of his name from Japanese to English. We do mangle their language badly- they say tsoo-na-me, while we tend to say soo-na-mee.
If it helps, miyazaki is moreso a title than a name, and the author of the book of 5 rings had many titles. From what I can glean online, it means 'to mind the gap' reading his writings, the name is quite fitting I'd say.
This was adhoc research done through google. If you really want I can check out the archives at mason through our online system. I'm just feeling lazy since I just finished 3 finals this week and waited tables from 6 am to now on mothers day.
To only train in one style, thinking it is the only way toward betterment, is limiting oneself. For example, when I ask another TKD practitioner what style they use, 9/10 ill hear WTF or ITF TKd, when the answer I am looking for is whether they practice Chang Moo Kwan, Chung Do Kwan, Moo Duk Kwan, etc.
But if what is considered 'Tae Kwon Do' is composed of these different styles, or kwans, and each of these kwans is a different expression of what we would call Tae Kwon Do in general, but none better than the other, each effective, than is it not a valid argument that the differences between the arts is really something relative. I have practiced in a hall where hundreds trained, and all of us were doing tang soo do, and Chung Do Kwan, respectively. Yet we all looked different.
What I say in martial arts being composed of each style, but greater than any, is akin to, if you excuse me for waning philosophical, the same way what we consider reality to be 'real' when it is actually composed subjectively by each of our individual experiences.
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Loved this little gem. By the way, if you truly believe the quote about if you didn't knock someone out with your first punch, how come you started a thread complaining about a student who hits too hard? Wax on or wax off?
ĀThe true science of martial arts means practicing them in such a way that they will be useful at any time, and to teach them in such a way that they will be useful in all things.Ā
-Miyamoto Miyazashi
Miyazashi?
@Chris, you don't have to agree with my teacher's quote. But I do. If you punch someone and they don't go down when your life is in danger, you have not trained your punch well enough.
Or do you want to continually risk yourself by having to hit them again and again to nullify the situation, if that is the only choice available. That was Master Khan's point. If when you use your technique, and they aren't defeated, you have not trained it well enough for the situation you are attempting to apply it to.