General Choi telling a North Korean NOT to twist his body when punching. "Just go up"

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Anybody claiming Chois vision of sinewave had hip twist (for punches) wont have a case after this. Choi wanted hip twist for blocks but not punches. Terrible but true.

He also displayed this himself by throwing the punch, in case there is any doubt.

His son has thankfully ignored this and incorporated hip twist punches nonetheless.

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Fair but erroneous assumption. In clip he says "Don't twist your Body" He des not say don't twist your hip. IMO in that snippet he was addressing what he felt was excessive shoulder rotation. There was another clip recently made the rounds on the FB Groups where he clearly instructs to "Jerk" your hip and abdomen. I will see if I can find it.
 
I know this is for Blocking - But it is not exclusively so. This is one clip
It's a nice feature in forms displays but you dont want to block with force, you want to roll with the strikes and then deliver one yourself. If you block with high impact there will be a trigger point that will disrupt both you and the opponents equilibrium, creating a loss of orientation. Nevermind the fact that it will hurt your arms.

The delivery below was a precursor known as knee spring and looked much more organic. He should have left it like that.


 
The last punch he just steps forward and throws the punch - best.

Another pet peeve: when watching this old stuff, they had an awful tendency in 70 and 80s forms display to throw "rising" dollyo chagis even though the correct execution is a semi circular turning kick.

It's a perfectly fine variation but not correct in the form
 
It's a nice feature in forms displays but you dont want to block with force, you want to roll with the strikes and then deliver one yourself. If you block with high impact there will be a trigger point that will disrupt both you and the opponents equilibrium, creating a loss of orientation. Nevermind the fact that it will hurt your arms.
Hmmm Let me guess "Acronym" is back.
Posted based on generalization. This ignores a couple of important points. 1. Many of the blocks are intended not just to stop you from being hit but to also damage the attacking limb. 2. Part of the system is "Dallyon" which involves body conditioning. This removes much if not all of the "Hurt Your Arms " issue.
 
Posted based on generalization. This ignores a couple of important points. 1. Many of the blocks are intended not just to stop you from being hit but to also damage the attacking limb.


Newtons laws of reactions dictates exactly why it's a bad idea. And you cant train it either to see what actually happens.
 
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I will alert your attention to Choi correcting him about twisting, demonstrates without twisting the hip, the practitioner does it again without twisting the hip and then is allowed to proceed.
 
The quote is old and for generic attack techniques. He did not twist his hip when showing how he wanted it.
No, it's the page from Volume III Hand techniques, page 17 which follows page 16 "Hand Techniques" (Which also mentions turning the hip and abdomen) As a section divider with the next section being Defense Techniques. So, once again you have drawn an incorrect conclusion based on your limited information .This remained unchanged throughout the later volumes.
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