Final Fu

[AceHBK]

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[seal]

Wow, this show is REALLY awful. The fighting is laughable. Who would fight like this in a real fight? This is why people dont' take martial arts seriously and I can't blame those people.

 

[wowzer77]

I despise this show completely. It makes Martial Arts look like a joke.

 

[Fluffy]

As I mentioned on the other thread. I have stopped watching it, and I'll recommend my students do the same. Vote with your TV's and give'm some bad ratings.

On the show itself: Good concept, very bad execution.

 

[ronin_warrior_j]

I dont see everybodys problem with the show. With so many Martial Arts schools having to close down due to lack of students. I think its great that theres a show that will peak the interest of the demagraphic it was ment for, thus upping enrollment rates due to new found interests in the martial arts. I can remember being 14 years old in 1993 and taking Kachido Aikijitsu class in a school that taught alot of other arts. The Power Ranger boom had just hit and i ended up having to help out with the karate classes due to the enormous sizes. What im trying to say is that these shows are ment for entertainment not as a guide to the martial arts.

 

[Kempojujutsu]

As for the show it self, I find it intersting. I think it helps promote martial arts in general. At least to the young adults who would be watching it on MTV. As for the sparring, there are many things I wouldn't be doing. I would like to see them allowed head contact. These are adults sparring, not young kids (5-12). Put some head gear on and put boxing gloves on and have semi contact. Tonights show has a Kempo guy fighting. I would like to see his fighting skills and how he would fight someone who does TKD.

If you are a school owner and someone came into your school to sign-up. They wanted to do martial arts because of this show on MTV. Would you like the show then? And like Ronin Warrior said

these shows are ment for entertainment not as a guide to the martial arts.

You have to be able to seperate entertainment from what would happen in a real fight.

 

[Fluffy]

As I said, it was a great concept. But there are many parts of the show that are not a great testimony of these martial artists. From bad ego's, to bending and even breaking rules (calls to the integrity of the individual) and some very sloppy techniques from some who have skill, but the show has to many issues to be a good example of martial arts.

I'm a school owner, I was a part of the Karate Kid influx of students (1985) and I remember the turtles and the rangers: big impact from positive shows. I love to see more students. But not at the expense of my values, and this show teaches little but Jr. loves a winner; no value at all.

Sport - Sport - Sport; is all I see, no tenants, just points - and allot of them wins the prize.

Great concept, badly executed.

 

[ronin_warrior_j]

As I said, it was a great concept. But there are many parts of the show that are not a great testimony of these martial artists. From bad ego's, to bending and even breaking rules (calls to the integrity of the individual) and some very sloppy techniques from some who have skill, but the show has to many issues to be a good example of martial arts.

I'm a school owner, I was a part of the Karate Kid influx of students (1985) and I remember the turtles and the rangers: big impact from positive shows. I love to see more students. But not at the expense of my values, and this show teaches little but Jr. loves a winner; no value at all.

Sport - Sport - Sport; is all I see, no tenants, just points - and allot of them wins the prize.

Great concept, badly executed.

Yeah there is rule breaking, but there is also repercussions for the broken rules. To me that shows a young kid that may be watching that you cant be an a**hole and be honorable at the same time. Im not saying that the show is perfect. I hate the no head contact thing, but in a way thats kind of good because it shows the viewers that you have to have restraint in certiant areas of the martial arts. Maybe this show is more well designed than we all think.

 

[AceHBK]

They need to put on some head gear and start making some contact. This looks terrible. Entertaining to a point but yes it looks sloppy at times and if they are MAists then put on some head gear and take a shot.

 

[Odin]

Aren't drunken forms generally something a martial arts master learns? I've never heard of intermediate/advanced drunken forms.

I thought drunken forms were made up.....after the film.

 

[AceHBK]

I will say that people say that there isnt any good technique in the matches but in how many sparring matches do u really see "great" technique executed effectively? Technique can look great when u practice alone but against another person it is a different matter.

 

[matt.m]

I think the fight last night was pretty decent. Night before is about the same. You have to look at this show for what it is, just flashy commercialisation.

I am sure everyone on the show has talent, I like the challenges during the show. I think the show is just trying to promote MA, however they are doing it differently than the UFC.

 

[RevIV]

Ok, i was looking way to far into the heading, being out of it i guess i have been reading all of these threads going to myself -- well what am i missing here? what is the title of this show? this makes no sense. I thought you were making a joke useing the title "Final Fu" i kept seeing "Final F.U." and you was like wow they are mad at this. But no, that is the title. def. makes me laugh, i will have to catch the show sometime
In Peace,
Jesse

 

[Andy Moynihan]

I've only ever watched part of one episode. It's as an earlier poster very aptly said, I couldn't stomach watching it sober.

It doesn't help my opinion of these shows that at least one of them is hosted on MTV.

It doesn't help my opinion of these shows that I am of the belief that the subject of martial arts is strictly and only for students thereof, and not the intellectually bankrupt, idly curious or voyeuristic( that is to say almost the entire Television-Viewing United States).


It doesn't help my opinion of these shows that I don't believe martial arts are for children, and certainly that the duty of any martial arts school is to train its students in *all* philosophical/physical/combative aspects of whatever art is taught. NOT to serve as an overglorified day care center.

It does not help my opinion of these shows that they popularize the image of Martial Arts in the public mind that we ought to be endeavoring to destroy( that of the McDojo syndrome).

McDojo's have ruined the reputation of Martial Arts in this country. These shows do nothing but worsen it.


Better that the martial arts should die out completely than be reduced to this.

 

[painstain]

i watched tonight and was not impressed.
and in response to someone elses response, i would teach to anyone for free if i wasn't in the system i'm in. perhaps to some people, the poor don't deserve a full rich life of martial arts. maybe its because the way they dress or smell or act that some don't think its ok to teach for an affordable price to all, but i think if people like what they see they may actually join martial arts. and i love to teach, i don't care about money i care about enriching the lives of others. i'll be one of the starving instructors that beleives people can change their life through martial arts. maybe itsbecause it happened to me. i don't know. many would be very surprised by what i pay for my two oldest sons and wife and i to train as many days in a week that we want. sorry i went off the subject

with respect,
painstain

 

[AceHBK]

Tonight's last match was the best that I have seen so far since the show started. Excellent technique by far. Karate vs. TKD and Karate won. Both put on a seminar on how to execute excellent kicks in a sparring match.

 

[AceHBK]

i watched tonight and was not impressed.
and in response to someone elses response, i would teach to anyone for free if i wasn't in the system i'm in. perhaps to some people, the poor don't deserve a full rich life of martial arts. maybe its because the way they dress or smell or act that some don't think its ok to teach for an affordable price to all, but i think if people like what they see they may actually join martial arts. and i love to teach, i don't care about money i care about enriching the lives of others. i'll be one of the starving instructors that beleives people can change their life through martial arts. maybe itsbecause it happened to me. i don't know. many would be very surprised by what i pay for my two oldest sons and wife and i to train as many days in a week that we want. sorry i went off the subject

with respect,
painstain

Funny u bring that up. I went into a TKD dojang today and they wanted $1800/month for lessons. 2x a week. Owner said they do 4months, 8 months and 12 months. Of course shorter the commitment more money it costs.

$1800/MONTH!!! lol 5 Dan teaching the class was very damn good, but not $1800/month damn good.

 

[Fluffy]

Funny u bring that up. I went into a TKD dojang today and they wanted $1800/month for lessons. 2x a week. Owner said they do 4months, 8 months and 12 months. Of course shorter the commitment more money it costs.

$1800/MONTH!!! lol 5 Dan teaching the class was very damn good, but not $1800/month damn good.

That's a new high for me! Are you sure he was not offering 1800 for 6 months? And that's still high at 300/month. My wife does not believe you......:whip:

 

[painstain]

agian sorry this is not on the subject.

where i started it was ten a month per student. my wife and two sons and i do it for 35 a month and have access to classes every day of the week.
almost can't wait to see what others think of that.

with respect,
painstain

 

[matt.m]

That's a new high for me! Are you sure he was not offering 1800 for 6 months? And that's still high at 300/month. My wife does not believe you......:whip:

Geez, that is ridiculous. My school cost 40 a month for tae kwon do. 50 if you take hapkido as well.