PiedmontChun
Purple Belt
I thought this was a good thread that got horribly derailed, and yes, the definition of "troll" seems to fit aptly here.
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Wow somebody gets the title "troll" really easy with you don't they?
If someone criticizes something they are a troll?
You having it really tough in real life i guess.
You should make a movie about that instead of your so called Youtube lessons.
Since there is no master key, the MA training is to find the right key to open the right lock. So far, this discussion only stay in the boundary of the "striking art". If you can knock your opponent down before the clinch happen, that's fine.
What if you can't knock your opponent down before the clinch happen? Can you still use "few techniques to beat many"? What will you do when your opponent gets
- head lock,
- double over hooks,
- double under hooks,
- bear hug,
-...
on you?
- How do you get out of it?
- How do you counter?
- Does your "few techniques" still work at that moment?
There is no one perfect technique to apply to all such situations. I hope I did not imply that. But there are techniques that can be adapted to handle a great variety of situations.
"Using a few techniques to beat many" is a strategy that can apply to many styles, and all ranges. It is an attitude or frame of mind that works for better for some than others. Maybe it depends on your temperament or outlook? Sort of like seeing the forest or the trees.
In wrestling, I knew a guy who had only one great takedown. And everybody knew it. But he could set you up so many ways, that it was really tough to counter --even though you knew it was coming!
Or how about Bill "Superfoot" Wallace. He had one great kick. Everybody knew it. But he could still land it.
Now here's an example more in the vein of my earlier observation about the "Sun-Fist" punch:
My old escrima teacher was a huge advocate of simplicity. He could counter most of what came at him just by adjusting his angle and counter striking with astounding speed, force, and accuracy.
If necessary, his strike would simultaneously function as deflection (or "interference strike") or as a block as needed. It was amazing how he could adapt (or "transition") the same basic dynamic into so many situations and ranges, with or without weapons. And always using a concept that we, in WC, know as "da sau jik si siu sau" or "Attacking hand is defending hand" as well as "lin siu di dar" or "simultaneous defense and attack".
One technique to beat many. A few techniques to beat all... if done very very well.
But you still cannot escape complexity. The many different set ups timing and correct technique generally take years to perfect.
First , what is a technique ? Memorized set of movements to deal with some situation or something else? Then, what is "few techniques"? Two ?five? ten? We have to know what we are talking about , to define the parameters
First , what is a technique ? Memorized set of movements to deal with some situation or something else? Then, what is "few techniques"? Two ?five? ten? We have to know what we are talking about , to define the parameters
If you move forward attacking the center, situations tend to take care of themselves. ... There is no set up. Only intercepting.
A WC guy will love to
- move in toward you. He will not hop around, apply "fire" strategy, and move like a ghost.
- build "arm bridge" with you. It will save you 1/2 the effort to build the "clinch" that you are looking for.
If you are a wrestler, do you prefer to fight a boxer, or do you prefer to fight a WC guy? You may prefer to fight a WC guy for the following reasons:
A WC guy will love to
- move in toward you. He will not hop around, apply "fire" strategy, and move like a ghost.
- build "arm bridge" with you. It will save you 1/2 the effort to build the "clinch" that you are looking for.
If you look at this from a wrestler's point of view, the concept to "move forward" and "intercept" can be a 2 edges sword. It may help you. It may also help your wrestler opponent.
It's not that hard to do. If you just concentrate 100% your effort on not to let your opponent to touch you,1. how does someone 'move like a ghost'? Never seen one myself ...
You don't need to wrestle a wrestler. But you should get some wrestlers and test your skill against them. Try to spar a wrestler 15 rounds daily. The rules can be as simple as:Our goal is always to never try to out wrestle a wrestler.
Chi sau training is not simply a way to deal with strikers. Chi sau teaches a WC fighter how to deal with pressures placed on the body and arms. Chi sau does not teach us to stick for the sake of sticking. The goal is always to hit, and to do so in such a way as to keep ourselves protected behind our arm/legs.
If an opening is found, we continue to strike through it until we end the threat (ie. knock him out/down) or until the opponent closes it off. In which case the arms seek the least path of resistance once again seeking the opening to strike.
Force placed upon the arms and body by a grappler is dealt with in much the same way. Our structures that we use to dissolve, disperse, redirect a strike can also be used to keep a wrestler from tying up our arms or cause us to lose balance. All the while, punching, elbowing etc. Our goal is always to never try to out wrestle a wrestler.
WC was developed to fight in close. Do you really think its founders never considered what to do against grapplers who also like to fight in close?
Do you really think its founders never considered what to do against grapplers who also like to fight in close?
...A striker may not know that just by raising his arm straight up in the air can free his arm from under hook. Such a simple and effortless method to disable your opponent's "under hook" (of course to take advantage on it instead of just to escape out of it is much better solution). In other words, our striking art founders might not have tested their principles/techniques "enough" against wrestlers. If they did, those information should be recorded as part of the striking art system.
Recorded in the system? ...as in Biu Tze?