Reality doesn't always work that way. Now granted, many WC people will tell you that they actually do what I have described in Silat, and some probably do. But there is no denying that most of the training clips we see and instructional videos we sell don't go past step 1.
Okay, played a little more with this (knife defense) thing yesterday.
I still couldn't get the traditional U-shape knife tapping thing to work well. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but I simply miss or take too long with my parries. The cross-side tan/gan is still just awkward for me. Going to keep practicing and see if I can't make it functional, though.
What I did have success with was simply grabbing the knife arm/hand in any way possible, and then transitioning into a lock or disarm. And I'm not even good at locks/disarms
I also used the "dog catcher" technique... At least, I think that's what it is. I'm assuming it's basically the same as the Gracie technique shown here?
I tried looking up the "dog catcher" and didn't find much. I did see someone using a reverse tan in conjunction with a gan, even for your standard high line thrusts, and cutting down into the traditional U-pattern to get to the outside. That's very similar to the gracie technique, and I could see how it would potentially easier to intercept with.
1. enter/close/bridge, 2. disrupt/damage, 3. put him on the ground, 4. finish him (step 1 &2 may happen at the same time and step 3 & 4 may happen at the same time). Too many in WC never seem to get past step 1, at least not in the way they train. They bridge and hit....do lots of Chi Sau focused on bridging and hitting....but few actually work to manipulate the body and balance to disrupt and proceed to an actual finish. They count on their lightening fast chain punches to put the guy down.
---But Jake go back and read earlier in this thread. We started out talking about how the use of the centerline differs when facing an unarmed opponent rather than an opponent armed with a knife.
Yep. I have done some FMA as well. Actually, I think I need to work on my knife tapping in an FMA sense also, as I haven't quite got it to be functional. It is still awkward and slow for me.
One thing Tim Waid does in that video is he really uses his footwork to get completely off-line. That's something I don't do enough of, perhaps. But seems like a double-edged sword; I can't move my whole body nearly as quickly as my opponent can redirect the knife, so it's very hard to keep up.
I just made a thread on this topic in the FMA forums, actually, so feel free to respond there
I definitely am in the habit of "less is more"/"subtle movement" from WC, where we don't use as big of motions to get out of the way or redirect something, but those large motions seem to be more necessary when weapons are involved. That presents a whole new challenge of actually getting where you need to be in time, though; I usually wind up resorting to smaller motions to keep up with an opponent, but they won't quite be enough to stop or redirect the knife in that case.
When talking about weapons such as knife it is dangerous no nonsense don't go against it just look at this clip will explain a lot reality means a lot why what you have trained did help out or useless ... Think over again
See that is the thing. The opponent's center line is NOT their front. Some people do see the centerline as running down the front of the opponent but is doesnt.
