no problem. just like to see things friendly. i respect all ma'rs even though in my eyes their art/science doesn't seem effective. i think people join this board to talk about something they love not to fight or get picked on. if thats the case we would all just enrole in elementary school againBigodinho said:I appreciate what you said Enson. Thanks.
1- I Actually know the man who modeled Eddy Gordo. His name is Mestre Caverinha, and he teaches in San Francisco, I believe. He's a very talented Master. Unfortunately he got hurt while putting the final touches on the character, so the finished it off with a Gymnasts... which is why Eddy does a lot of flairs, and does a handstand facing away from his opponent, which we are trained not to do.WLMantisKid said:Aside from that, Capoiera has always interested me. Especially back in my days of playing Eddie Gordo on Tekken 3. It's a beautiful martial art that looks like it requires a load of flexibility and body strength that I am a long way from as of yet (im still working on it). I have no doubt that I would not want to get into a fight with an experienced capoiera player, as one good shot from their legs would likely end the fight for me.
but a question for your Bigodinho - Im planning on taking a trip down to Texas probably in the spring to see my girlfriend among other things - would it be possible for me to stop in and maybe just take a free class or watch one? It'd definitely be one more check for things I want to do in life.
I didnt feel as if I was flaming. I thought I was going pretty easy. Me and him just have a difference of opinion thats all, its nothing personal for me. And you are right about me never training in capoeira, but I have fought against many styles. I dont mean any disrespect, I will tone it down I didnt realize people thought I was getting out of control. I was just expressing my opinion. But Ill do it in a more respectful way.Enson said:
Hey Im not cocky. Im just soooo coooool.WLMantisKid said:I dont think anyone has the right to say an art is not effective in self-defense unless that person has trained under every instructor that art has to offer. Otherwise it's just plain ignorance. DeLamar has a cocky attitude and thinks he knows everything about every art. He'd likely tell me that Praying Mantis Kung Fu is not a self defense art, yet he's probably never fought anyone who took it.
Aside from that, Capoiera has always interested me. Especially back in my days of playing Eddie Gordo on Tekken 3. It's a beautiful martial art that looks like it requires a load of flexibility and body strength that I am a long way from as of yet (im still working on it
but a question for your Bigodinho - Im planning on taking a trip down to Texas probably in the spring to see my girlfriend among other things - would it be possible for me to stop in and maybe just take a free class or watch one? It'd definitely be one more check for things I want to do in life.
I didn't feel you were getting out of control. It just bothers me when people give their opinion on a topic they know nothing about. Or base an opinion on one encounter with a capoeirista.
I guarantee you low roundhousing would not work with the instructors I've trained with. Any capoeirista with experience would know not to stand still long enough to get hit any number of times with low roundhousing. In order to kick a capoeirista, you must first catch him, which with my instructor and the guys I've trained with, that is a pretty tough job.
First of all, my Master wouldn't whoop anyone's butt unless he absolutely had to. One of the first things we learn is that a capoeirista can escape from any situation, idealy without having to fight. Capoeiristas learn how to survive, not tap out. Because if I have to use my art in real life, the only tapping I'll do is my foot to your knee... lol. If you ever had a chance to "spar" with a great capoeirista, you may find out it would be a lot harder than you originally thought it would be. Low roundhousing will not connect very often. Oh, and duck... don't block... you'll arm will hate you for it when it's in a cast. We don't use pads in capoeira. No protective gear.
You did not offend me only because I realized you were speaking from inexperience. But I would ask you before you offer you opinion, exam what you are talking about beforehand. Try it yourself. Where are you located? I can maybe direct you to a good group to train with.
I am the last guy on the right in the RED AND BLUE picture. The guy with the shirt. I just posted a video on a thread you created, Martial Arts in ActionDeLamar.J said:
Hey, beginner though I may be, I'd STILL play if I ran into a roda this afternoon! I trained with Pimentinha of Abada Capoeira.Bigodinho said:
anyway i have the greatest respect for all martial artist i just have never seen it been used before. i would be kinda freaked if i had to spar someone and they started doing these rolls and twist on the floor. scarey!!!:ultracool
What in that heck was that? I thought Capoeira was crazy, that's some crazy stuff. lol! That might actually be very effective because it would literally throw me off is someone started screaming like that.DeLamar.J said:
So would I actually.
Absolutely correct. You don't have to keep your hands on the floor in capoeira. Especially not the style of capoeira we practice, Capoeira Regional. This style is more kicks and fast paced movements. Acrobatics may be involved, but only if you know how to work it into your style. If not, I would leave acrobatics alone. It's not important. In Capoeira Regional if you do any movements on the ground, they should be quick and you would stand right back up. You don't want to stay on the ground doing movements for too long or you will get locked up by someone who knows how.
That's what I've been trying to say. Abada Capoeira is a strong group. Very popular. Unfortunately for us, Grupo Capoeira Brasil and Abada Capoeira have never been on the best of terms, except for maybe the Masters who have a great respect for each other. But nonetheless, the have a very strong style, similar to ours.
