Can you theoretical people stop talking about jabs in fight videos as if you actually have brains?

[Ugh]

A jab is a quick straight with the forward hand. Either it's a quick straight with the forward hand or it isn't.

Yet people are always saying things like "crappy jab," "sorry excuse for a jab," blah blah blah.

If it's a jab, it's a jab. If it's not, it's not. The only way a jab would be "crappy" is if it's not a jab at all. In which case it would be something else. Most of the time the punches that people are calling "crappy jabs" are just jabs that for one reason or another didn't land. Does that make the jab bad?

Do you theoretical people comment just to do it?

 

[Bill Mattocks]

A jab is a quick straight with the forward hand. Either it's a quick straight with the forward hand or it isn't.

Yet people are always saying things like "crappy jab," "sorry excuse for a jab," blah blah blah.

If it's a jab, it's a jab. If it's not, it's not. The only way a jab would be "crappy" is if it's not a jab at all. In which case it would be something else. Most of the time the punches that people are calling "crappy jabs" are just jabs that for one reason or another didn't land. Does that make the jab bad?

Do you theoretical people comment just to do it?

And you say you're afraid to start fights.

 

[Ugh]

And you say you're afraid to start fights.

I am. What's your point?

 

[Dirty Dog]

A jab is a quick straight with the forward hand. Either it's a quick straight with the forward hand or it isn't.

Yet people are always saying things like "crappy jab," "sorry excuse for a jab," blah blah blah.

If it's a jab, it's a jab. If it's not, it's not. The only way a jab would be "crappy" is if it's not a jab at all. In which case it would be something else. Most of the time the punches that people are calling "crappy jabs" are just jabs that for one reason or another didn't land. Does that make the jab bad?

Do you theoretical people comment just to do it?

You sure have a lot of opinions for someone who is afraid to start a fight, freezes up and can't move when confronted, and has like 2.5 minutes of training...

 

[Bill Mattocks]

I am. What's your point?

I was born at night, but not last night.

 

[Ugh]

You sure have a lot of opinions for someone who is afraid to start a fight, freezes up and can't move when confronted, and has like 2.5 minutes of training...

So let me get this straight.. the fact that I have extreme anxiety and I've trained for under a year total (the 2.5 minutes crap has to stop btw, you make it seem like I only took one class) means I can't tell it how it is?

 

[Ugh]

I was born at night, but not last night.

Apparently you were because my anxiety should have no bearing on my brutal honesty.

 

[Dirty Dog]

So let me get this straight.. the fact that I have extreme anxiety and I've trained for under a year total (the 2.5 minutes crap has to stop btw, you make it seem like I only took one class) means I can't tell it how it is?

Well, yes, actually. You have no training and no experience. Those are pretty significant, under the circumstances.

 

[Oily Dragon]

The only way a jab would be "crappy" is if it's not a jab at all.

Not necessarily.

 

[Ugh]

Not necessarily.

How so?

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

A jab is a quick straight with the forward hand. Either it's a quick straight with the forward hand or it isn't.

Jab is just a leading arm punch. If you put your body behind it (such as step in back leg and jab), it will have power. If you don't, it can be just a fake punch to set up your cross.

This is powerful jab.

https://i.postimg.cc/m2M5hMM2/Baji-Fajin.gif

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

How so?

It can be slow. They could not be stepping properly with their foot (if it's a step-jab). They could be flaring their elbow. They could be telegraphing. They could be throwing their shoulder into it. They could be leaning into it too much. They could be dropping their guard when they jab. They could have their thumb on the inside of their fists (if not wearing boxing gloves. They could have their wrist bent. It could be aimed too low or too high. Those are just off the top of my head.

 

[Ugh]

It can be slow. They could not be stepping properly with their foot (if it's a step-jab). They could be flaring their elbow. They could be telegraphing. They could be throwing their shoulder into it. They could be leaning into it too much. They could be dropping their guard when they jab. They could have their thumb on the inside of their fists (if not wearing boxing gloves. They could have their wrist bent. It could be aimed too low or too high. Those are just off the top of my head.

That makes sense

 

[Oily Dragon]

How so?

How so?

You said it your self.

The only way?

 

[JowGaWolf]

the fact that I have extreme anxiety and I've trained for under a year total

This may be why you don't understand Jabs, beyond a fist with the arm extended.

 

[drop bear]

Jabs are an art form. I do them so well they named a street after me.

 

[Ugh]

Well, yes, actually. You have no training and no experience. Those are pretty significant, under the circumstances.

How do I have "no training?"

Oh why do I even ask? You're just gonna change the subject since apparently being well trained in martial arts means you lose all argument skills.

Hope to God that doesn't happen to me too.

 

[O'Malley]

Apparently you were because my anxiety should have no bearing on my brutal honesty.

You can be honest without treating others with disrespect. That's social skills 101.

How do I have "no training?"

Oh why do I even ask? You're just gonna change the subject since apparently being well trained in martial arts means you lose all argument skills.

Hope to God that doesn't happen to me too.

Under a year of training is pretty insignificant compared to most people's experience here. Some members have been training for over 40 years.

You can learn a lot about martial arts on here (I certainly have) but you're not entitled to that knowledge. Understanding this - and behaving like a decent person - will get you further.

Back to your question. A jab is a jab, but the quality may differ. If a jab is subpar in terms of power, speed, defensive cover or tactical usage, it's a bad jab.

 

[Ugh]

You can be honest without treating others with disrespect. That's social skills 101.

Under a year of training is pretty insignificant compared to most people's experience here. Some members have been training for over 40 years.

You can learn a lot about martial arts on here (I certainly have) but you're not entitled to that knowledge. Understanding this - and behaving like a decent person - will get you further.

Back to your question. A jab is a jab, but the quality may differ. If a jab is subpar in terms of power, speed, defensive cover or tactical usage, it's a bad jab.

I'm here to learn, not make friends or cater to yet ANOTHER system that most certainly picks favorites anyway.

Your explanation does make sense though.

 

[O'Malley]

It's your call if you want to make friends or not. But it's also your responsibility how you treat others.

If you tell a senior instructor in full-contact karate to "drive off a cliff", don't expect him to share his knowledge about sparring with you. The rule here, like in IRL social settings, is to keep discussions civil.

Your call.